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I would also recommend going into the back yard and snipping the cable, but that would be illegal, so don't do it.

I am part of the TV addict generation. What cured some associates and I, were being outside the US for over a decade. Coming back to the States and watching media dumbed down to the lowest common denominator was shocking. I limit my TV to one series (The Orville this year), and not more than 4 hours of news shows a week (alternate between the Fox shows and always Mark Levin on Sundays) not including breaking news and documentaries. I will even watch CNN/MSNBC/CNBC to get a feel for their perspectives.

I dunno what it is with old people... it’s like giving alcohol to a primitive tribe... but it’s like all they have to do all day is watch the news and get pissed.

I’m pretty sure that my grandfather doesn’t even listen to music in his car. The truck radio is literally always set to the news, at full volume.

As we all know the Leftist Democrats, the FBI and the DOJ, will eventually have President Trump arrested and indicted on Trumped UP charges, not because President Trump has done anything wrong, he hasn't, its because they hate him for over 4 Years and counting and are trying to get him on anything, Trumped UP Pun intended. I also think this could be one of the reasons Biden addressed the nation with that anti democratic, hateful, divisive, anti Trump, anti MAGA, Anti Republicans speech, calling us a threat to democracy and the nation, which we are not, I think the two incidents could be related, as one of the reasons for that speech.

Miami Jai-Alai 3 wrote:

As we all know the Leftist Democrats, the FBI and the DOJ, will eventually have President Trump arrested and indicted on Trumped UP charges, not because President Trump has done anything wrong, he hasn't, its because they hate him for over 4 Years and counting and are trying to get him on anything, Trumped UP Pun intended. I also think this could be one of the reasons Biden addressed the nation with that anti democratic, hateful, divisive, anti Trump, anti MAGA, Anti Republicans speech, calling us a threat to democracy and the nation, which we are not, I think the two incidents could be related, as one of the reasons for that speech.

It's definitely trending in that direction. Ironically they may actually unintentionally help Trump if they try to charge him as the vast majority of people would not want to see a Biden DOJ prosecute political opponents

People are now old enough to drink who were born after 9/11

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:

I dunno what it is with old people... it’s like giving alcohol to a primitive tribe... but it’s like all they have to do all day is watch the news and get pissed.

It's badly habitative. I can image that 60 years from now, kids will be saying how nuts it is that granddad and grandmama get so angry if they can't watch their tokcasts. Unless we are all eating insects and electricity was once a thing that everybody had (not just the illustrious party leaders) when there was such a thing called freedom.

When I was a kid in the 60s there was one TV set in the house (if the house even had TV). Both sides of the family had a one-eyed monster. Family members would drive over to the grandparents to watch TV together as a family. One side watched maybe 3 hours of prime-time tv series and a Mystery Movie of the week always after dinner. They would then discuss what they had just watched, the parts they liked, and the parts they didn't. Even my 5 year old self was asked what i thought. The other side would watch tv here and there, but almost always as a family, and they too would discuss the shows afterward also. One of the constant themes was, what is the right way do respond to X situation presented in the story, and why. By the end of the 1970s there was a TV in every room thanks to Madman Muntz, and the family part of watching TV disappeared.

Miami Jai-Alai 3 wrote:

As we all know the Leftist Democrats, the FBI and the DOJ, will eventually have President Trump arrested and indicted on Trumped UP charges, not because President Trump has done anything wrong, he hasn't, its because they hate him for over 4 Years and counting and are trying to get him on anything, Trumped UP Pun intended. I also think this could be one of the reasons Biden addressed the nation with that anti democratic, hateful, divisive, anti Trump, anti MAGA, Anti Republicans speech, calling us a threat to democracy and the nation, which we are not, I think the two incidents could be related, as one of the reasons for that speech.

It's quite possible. Trump poked the DC Swamp Monster, and it is fighting back. They (the swamp creatures) are real time examples of power corrupting and absolute power corrupting absolutely.

Suzi Island wrote:

It's definitely trending in that direction. Ironically they may actually unintentionally help Trump if they try to charge him as the vast majority of people would not want to see a Biden DOJ prosecute political opponents

The only time I want to see government officials and public servants (as well as government contractors) prosecuted is for deprivation of rights under color of authority, misprisions of felony, and for violating actual statutes of material crimes. I want them duly prosecuted impartially, without mercy, and given the jail sentences they deserve. I do not care what it is, or whose party the perps belong too. I am cynical so that would probably be 90% of the Federal government. But even 1,000 prosecutions a year would be a good start.

Suzi Island wrote:

People are now old enough to drink who were born after 9/11

Instead of commemorating 9/11 the Mayor of Boise had the audacity to hold a gay/trans celebration weekend with a bring your children to the drag show event. Apparently she thought the narcissism over one's sexual peccadilloes was so overshadowed by other more newsworthy events during the month of June that they didn't get their time in the sun. Thankfully, the exposing children to lewd and lascivious conduct part was cancelled. Children are not sexual playthings.

I do not care what a person's sexual jollies are (as long as it is safe, lawful, and involves consenting adults). I do not care what it is, and I do not want to hear or see it unless I go looking for it. Sexuality belongs in the bedroom, in private clubs, or Gutfield's dungeon, not shoved down everyone's throat, IMNSHO.

Narland wrote:

When I was a kid in the 60s there was one TV set in the house (if the house even had TV). Both sides of the family had a one-eyed monster. Family members would drive over to the grandparents to watch TV together as a family. One side watched maybe 3 hours of prime-time tv series and a Mystery Movie of the week always after dinner. They would then discuss what they had just watched, the parts they liked, and the parts they didn't. Even my 5 year old self was asked what i thought. The other side would watch tv here and there, but almost always as a family, and they too would discuss the shows afterward also. One of the constant themes was, what is the right way do respond to X situation presented in the story, and why. By the end of the 1970s there was a TV in every room thanks to Madman Muntz, and the family part of watching TV disappeared.

Growing up, there was a period of my life which was somewhat similar to this. In my case, from the age of 7-13 (I think I have the years right) most of my father’s family (my younger brother, my dad’s siblings, grandma and grandpa, and then a few of friends of my father and his siblings) lived in the same house, or on the property. We had other tv’s, with at least two of them hooked up to cable, but at least every night everybody would eat dinner in the living room and we’d all watch TV on the giant (heavy) cube with what must have been 3-inch thick glass on the one side. Although, most of the time there was a lot of actual side conversation taking place, and my brother, cousins, I would usually end up throwing our toys down in the center of everybody.

PS, I think that TV might still be over in one of the bedrooms of that house. TV was probably from the 90s and got regular use in the living room up until maybe 2012, possibly 2014. Can’t remember. Still worked last time I saw it.

Narland wrote:

It's badly habitative. I can image that 60 years from now, kids will be saying how nuts it is that granddad and grandmama get so angry if they can't watch their tokcasts. Unless we are all eating insects and electricity was once a thing that everybody had (not just the illustrious party leaders) when there was such a thing called freedom.

When I was a kid in the 60s there was one TV set in the house (if the house even had TV). Both sides of the family had a one-eyed monster. Family members would drive over to the grandparents to watch TV together as a family. One side watched maybe 3 hours of prime-time tv series and a Mystery Movie of the week always after dinner. They would then discuss what they had just watched, the parts they liked, and the parts they didn't. Even my 5 year old self was asked what i thought. The other side would watch tv here and there, but almost always as a family, and they too would discuss the shows afterward also. One of the constant themes was, what is the right way do respond to X situation presented in the story, and why. By the end of the 1970s there was a TV in every room thanks to Madman Muntz, and the family part of watching TV disappeared.

The TV family as described by Bradbury. The banning of books in the novel was accepted by society since they were replaced by mindless entertainment

Suzi Island wrote:

The TV family as described by Bradbury. The banning of books in the novel was accepted by society since they were replaced by mindless entertainment

There was a short story where an older teenager would go for a walk every evening when everyone else in the neighborhood was mesmerized by the vid screen. A robot patrol car happened by and queried the walker. Its programming registered the walker as a sociopath (obviously because he would rather walk than mindlessly sit in the house with his family). He was ordered into the patrol car and driven to an automated police station for processing.

Because his family didn't want to be disturbed by one of the best parts of the vidscreen program the picked up the receiver without answering and left it off the hook (iirc). The automated police station processed him as indigent and a sociopath. He was ushered off to holding. Since he had used his one phone call, he needed to wait for his family to call the police that he was missing. But they never did.

Narland wrote:

There was a short story where an older teenager would go for a walk every evening when everyone else in the neighborhood was mesmerized by the vid screen. A robot patrol car happened by and queried the walker. Its programming registered the walker as a sociopath (obviously because he would rather walk than mindlessly sit in the house with his family). He was ordered into the patrol car and driven to an automated police station for processing.

Because his family didn't want to be disturbed by one of the best parts of the vidscreen program the picked up the receiver without answering and left it off the hook (iirc). The automated police station processed him as indigent and a sociopath. He was ushered off to holding. Since he had used his one phone call, he needed to wait for his family to call the police that he was missing. But they never did.

Is that a Bradbury it sounds similar to his style and I would love to read it sometime

Well, the Discord is riled up, and the Regional Message Board remains peaceful. Can’t have that.

“There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all. This is just as true of the man who puts "native" before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance. But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.
The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic. The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American. There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.”
~ Theodore Roosevelt

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“The untransacted destiny of the American people is to subdue the continent — to rush over this vast field to the Pacific Ocean — to animate the many hundred millions of its people, and to cheer them upward — to set the principle of self-government at work — to agitate these herculean masses — to establish a new order in human affairs — to set free the enslaved — to regenerate superannuated nations — to change darkness into light — to stir up the sleep of a hundred centuries — to teach old nations a new civilization — to confirm the destiny of the human race — to carry the career of mankind to its culminating point — to cause stagnant people to be re-born — to perfect science — to emblazon history with the conquest of peace — to shed a new and resplendent glory upon mankind — to unite the world in one social family — to dissolve the spell of tyranny and exalt charity — to absolve the curse that weighs down humanity, and to shed blessings round the world!
Divine task! immortal mission! Let us tread fast and joyfully the open trail before us! Let every American heart open wide for patriotism to glow undimmed, and confide with religious faith in the sublime and prodigious destiny of his well-loved country.”
~ William Gilpin

Suzi Island wrote:

Is that a Bradbury it sounds similar to his style and I would love to read it sometime

There is a vague recollection of a black and white sketch picture with the story so it could have been in a pulp magazine. Iirc it was very Bradbury.

Some of those stories were hit and miss. One that I remember was star trek operatic with a form of prime directive (but written in the 1950s). The starman had to figure out how to help the native population only using the tools and tech level that they already possessed to defeat competing native lifeforms or face certain extinction. That part was pretty good.

It was great all the way up to the point where instead of directing societal pathos in common sense appeal to nature and natural law, the starman becomes a moral idiot and plunders the priceless relics of the natives so they wouldn't worship him as a god after he leaves. Ugly Americans in spaaaaaaaaaace! O well. In spite of the ending it was a good story.

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:

Well, the Discord is riled up, and the Regional Message Board remains peaceful. Can’t have that.

The Discord is always riled up

Suzi Island wrote:

The Discord is always riled up

I see you called me, GMS. Biden should be investigated for letting in illegal immigrants illegally, busing and flying them to Republican Red States and impeached for practicing open borders illegal immigration.

Hey Auxorii, would you like to roleplay with me?

Here is the task I’m giving our American community members on the NS of Libertatem:

How would you describe America to a European who didn’t know much about America?

Nova xander wrote:

Hey Auxorii, would you like to roleplay with me?

:3

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:

Here is the task I’m giving our American community members on the NS of Libertatem:

How would you describe America to a European who didn’t know much about America?

America is a place where you can be anything and find anything - whereas a lot of places (such as Ireland) are so focused on how we present ourselves in public - our image - it’s exactly the opposite in America. You’re encouraged to be an individual and stick out.

This is something every cousin of mine says when they visit me in the States.

Auxorii wrote:

:3

pats cat

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:

Here is the task I’m giving our American community members on the NS of Libertatem:

How would you describe America to a European who didn’t know much about America?

A lot of Europeans criticize Americans for not traveling overseas as much (whether that's accurate is debatable) but they fail to realize that America is a super diverse country whose various cultures and landscapes can take a lifetime to completely explore and experience