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Thuzbekistan wrote:

But they voted to stay in the UK? Democracy had its day there

I'm just pointing out an irony I see when it comes to the main arguments I hear of breaking from Brussels being just as applicable to London, given some modification.

Dormill and Stiura wrote:

I'm just pointing out an irony I see when it comes to the main arguments I hear of breaking from Brussels being just as applicable to London, given some modification.

Enough modification that it is essentially a state leaving the union rather than a nation leaving an international treaty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T6go6EOuG4

Anyways, I think it's safe to say in hindsight that Polar could've used this a year back.

Dormill and Stiura & Thuzbekistan. I understand where Dorm is coming from as the argument for Brexit can be extremely emotionally rather than based on fact, as is the same with the issue of Scottish independence. However, as Thuz mentioned, Scottish independence has had its day, and it saddens me that people will so easily forsake their logic here for petty emotional reasoning.

A lot about what is said concerning England/Scotland is outright bullsh*t. The Wars of Independence were typical medieval succession crises, the Battle of Culloden was a clan civil war (not England vs Scotland) and the Highland Clearances (a terrible forced movement of Highlanders) was started by a Scot.

There is a strange underdog syndrome in Scotland, as people want to fight against an non-existent enemy. It really hurts to see Nicola Sturgeon, a bright and competent politician, uphold a ridiculously emotional policy devoid of fact or reason.

In my opinion, a federal UK would make a lot of sense, with London as a separate state. Time to move away from moronic separatism.

Noronica wrote:

In my opinion, a federal UK would make a lot of sense, with London as a separate state. Time to move away from moronic separatism.

Federal UK.

For as awesome as this idea sounds, it's way beyond possibility that it's laffable. What next? An actual Republic?

Dormill and Stiura wrote:

Federal UK.

For as awesome as this idea sounds, it's way beyond possibility that it's laffable. What next? An actual Republic?

Not really, Tony Blair started devolution which could have led to federalism if the policy had been allowed to develop further.

Noronica wrote:

Not really, Tony Blair started devolution which could have led to federalism if the policy had been allowed to develop further.

And there are those that do support it.

However, I do understand that the idea can be far-fetched especially with such raised tensions in the UK, this was just an ideal situation in my mind!

Noronica wrote:

And there are those that do support it.

However, I do understand that the idea can be far-fetched especially with such raised tensions in the UK, this was just an ideal situation in my mind!

I guess that does help to explain the United Prefectures, a reflection of your own beliefs.

But on a new topic, I've been mulling around the idea of reviving the C6 with new membership in preparation for your growing rivalry with Mik.

Donald j trump will make america great wrote:

Donald Trump 2020!
Vote for Donald Trump in 2020 if you are an American patriot who is proud in his country.
He has made America Great in just 2 years and created more jobs and improved the economy.
Because of Donald Trump everybody respects America1
Keep America Great!
Upvote!
Telegram me to join the campaign!
Trump 2020!
Copy and Paste this all other Nationstates!
All regions will have this but most of all put it in commie regions!

Isn't this the same guy who said Nipple and Button are part of Modiland?

Athara magarat wrote:

Isn't this the same guy who said Nipple and Button are part of Modiland?

Don't engage with the idiot. They probably only know Nepal through the one Family Guy cutaway.

Dormill and Stiura wrote:

I guess that does help to explain the United Prefectures, a reflection of your own beliefs.

But on a new topic, I've been mulling around the idea of reviving the C6 with new membership in preparation for your growing rivalry with Mik.

Eh, sort of. Noronica is just a playground for ideas that began from personal ideas, as I don’t exactly support what my characters do to achieve their aims :P - but that is an idea that interests me.

On the C6, I’ve had a few ideas for renewal as well. I’ll hop on telegrams!

Dormill and Stiura wrote:

Don't engage with the idiot. They probably only know Nepal through the one Family Guy cutaway.

You know that's a troll account because it claimed "Because of Donald Trump everybody respects America1"

Nobody respects Cheeseburgerland anymore with Trump at the wheel. He's turned the "Great" America into an international joke

Nights edge wrote:

You know that's a troll account

Takes one to know one.

Miklania wrote:

Takes one to know one.

I'm only 25% troll. The rest is asshole-ery or snark depending on how you look at it

hola

Nights edge wrote:

I'm only 25% troll. The rest is asshole-ery or snark depending on how you look at it

That's not much different from troll. But at least you aren't stupid.

Anyone got any advice for my first News RP post?

Dormill and Stiura wrote:

Federal UK.

For as awesome as this idea sounds, it's way beyond possibility that it's laffable. What next? An actual Republic?

The idea for a Federal U.K. started as far back as 1870s after the Federal German Empire came in to being. There was talk then of creating a Federal Kingdom with each of the three kingdoms,Wales, Canada, Newfoundland, Cape Colony, New Zealand and the Australian colonies all becoming states within the Federal Kingdom.

Dormill and Stiura wrote:

That's not much different from troll.

But at least you aren't stupid.

That's a matter of perspective

I'm flattered you're that delusional

Noronica wrote:

A lot about what is said concerning England/Scotland is outright bullsh*t. The Wars of Independence were typical medieval succession crises, the Battle of Culloden was a clan civil war (not England vs Scotland) and the Highland Clearances (a terrible forced movement of Highlanders) was started by a Scot.

Extreme Scottish history nerd here. The Wars of Independence were definitely more "grey" than might be supposed from Braveheart- I'd wager that more Scots died fighting Wallace/Bruce etc than did English

Wellsia wrote:

The idea for a Federal U.K. started as far back as 1870s after the Federal German Empire came in to being. There was talk then of creating a Federal Kingdom with each of the three kingdoms,Wales, Canada, Newfoundland, Cape Colony, New Zealand and the Australian colonies all becoming states within the Federal Kingdom.

CANZUK, which is still around today in some circles apparently, seeing as it was considered as an alternative Brexit strategy.

Almorea wrote:

Extreme Scottish history nerd here. The Wars of Independence were definitely more "grey" than might be supposed from Braveheart- I'd wager that more Scots died fighting Wallace/Bruce etc than did English

Oh definitely, especially with Robert as he had to combat terrible clan rivalries which one historian described as mafia-like. On Braveheart, one thing that annoys me is when people point to Wallace as a free-fighting Pictish peasant who fought in a kilt, as it demeans Scottish military history. He was a son of a nobleman and was destined to fit relatively well into the social hierarchy, while his army would have been vastly more sophisticated than the Pictish warriors hundreds of years before. The Wars of Independence have been likened to dogs fighting over a bone, especially when it came to Castle Urquhart, rather than what has been romanticised as good-versus-evil.

(Edit: I realise I may be going on a bit of a rant on Scottish politics/history, apologies :P )

Almorea wrote:

I understand. It's hard to find someone to talk to about it :)

Proponents of Scottish independence should really study history more. In (almost) every English invasion of Scotland after the independence wars there were disgruntled Scottish nobles (1400) or political factions (1482) who were right there to help the English along. And going back to Robert the Bruce, in retrospect he can be seen as having unified the Scots under some kind of patriotic banner, but how many nobles after his death went over to Balliol? A lot! Small wonder David Bruce had to be sent to France... Scotland was hardly "patriotic" or united like pro-independence romanticists like it to be portrayed as

If you look at who the real enemy to much of Scotland was after the Wars of Independence it was the MacDonald Clan/Lords of the Isles (The Western Isles) who caused the most mayhem and destruction especially in the Highlands. The clans despised each other and when it came to the throne the monarch could do nothing but watch the disputes. Much could be said about backstabbing in England, but with the clans acting freely, they were the ones that caused Scotland the most amount of trouble.

Austrovik-Germania wrote:

Anyone got any advice for my first News RP post?

I would advise against a massive headline at first, look to perhaps react to something or write a domestic story. Consider also the viewpoint of the company that is writing the article, are they independent of the state? Do they lean to a certain political persuasion? While you want to write a story to tell others around the region what is going on, remember that no one is totally unbiased.

Noronica wrote:

I would advise against a massive headline at first, look to perhaps react to something or write a domestic story. Consider also the viewpoint of the company that is writing the article, are they independent of the state? Do they lean to a certain political persuasion? While you want to write a story to tell others around the region what is going on, remember that no one is totally unbiased.

Well my nation does operate with state-run newspaper so there is no such thing as bias, only the correct opinion but yeah. I'm thinking maybe write about a planning of a new dam or something.