I mean, from what you have listed there, those hold 19 fighter aircraft. I use the Kuznetsov, which according to a quick Google search, carries 18 Sukhois, 6 MiGs and a few choppers on top. Not a big carrier, yet I have still been limited to a single carrier.
I don't know what the policy of the region is regarding having two helicopter carriers (or so I imagine the Courageous class being, correct me if I'm wrong there), but I am relatively certain of the policy regarding aircraft carriers. One per nation, big or small.
You don't really see me even trying to get a second carrier alongside my Kuznetsov or calling it a aircraft cruiser to avoid that rule :P
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That seems an odd rule, since carriers come in such a wide range of sizes and capabilities.
What's wrong with letting the cost of maintaining military units limit how much hardware nations can have? At the soft caps, a nation has a $900B GDP, which doesn't go very far in terms of buying and maintaining large forces.
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The one aircraft rule is only regarding like actual aircraft carriers and not for example helicopter carriers. The actual carriers themselves are generally look at per country basis. I have a Kuznetsov, others have smaller and others have bigger ones.
"What's wrong with letting the cost of maintaining military units limit how much hardware nations can have?"
Well technically, nothing, if your armed forces is being led by braindead morons. Sure, buy all the weapons you want, but don't expect your army to be good material wise.
And the biggest ones are far more capable and much more expensive than the smallest. So why one per customer, rather then: "Practically, TWI nations have only $X amount to spend, and if somebody really wants a pair of carrier battle groups, they can have them, at the expense of something else."
Exactly: maintaining large, quality forces -- especially large, quality power projection forces -- is expensive. Very expensive. So most people won't bother, and those that will are trading off something else for that big-ass military.
I've been trying to get Ioudaia's military in order for a while now, and Ioudaia can't afford more than one large carrier and its associated air wing, escorts, and support ships. But perhaps a large one and a small one. Maybe. It's going to be a stretch, given Ioudaia's social spending and fancy-schmancy space program.
I'm not the one to decide with these things, but this is how we've done it and it's worked well. Not to mention that aircraft carriers are not the only way pf extending power projection of a nation.
I don't really get your point here. If someone wants to have a socialist Albania style extremily militaristic dictatorship, sure, go for it, but said people should understand the major ramifications of this in their nation. People here are flexible with said stuff, as long as it's done realistically.
Then there's a big question for each nation, should you even have a big or a modern military? There's a lot of historical, political, cultural and economic factors that go into that, so no-one should just hop in and be like "gonna have a naval carrier and be the military big boy yo yo"
EDIT: Not to mention, on your "Practically, TWI nations have only $X amount to spend, and if somebody really wants a pair of carrier battle groups, they can have them, at the expense of something else", there is said thing. It's known as the budget.
That money doesn't come out of nowhere, each million and billion is always out from something else. Heck, I would have a lot of use for the money I spend maintaining my carrier.
I have always thought that it should be based on expenditure and not number of hulls. The old Invincible Class cariers cost 175m pounds back in 1981 which with inflation would put them at 686m each today, the three combined cost 2.058 billion pounds. The Queen Elizabeth Carrier cost 3.86 billion each. The problem would be coming up with a workable formula converting GDP into revenue and military expenditure. Even real world nations vary greatly with Oman having the highest at 8.8% of GDP, to nations like the US, NATO, Russia who average around 4%. Then there is cost overruns, the US, UK and Japan have experience in carrier building and can do it much cheaper then India and China, who are having to learn on the fly. The UK spend 72,000 dollars a ton for the QE, whereas it cost India 97,500 dollar a ton to build the Vikrant.
Here is a site that gives a modern military equipment pricing list. https://nation-creation.fandom.com/wiki/Modern_Day_Military_Pricing_List#
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