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Brulafi

Dormill and Stiura wrote:From where I stand, the most optimal economy is one where nobody goes poor, yet there are healthy amounts of ways to become rich. Where workers own the means of production in a competitive, capitalist-like, business environment.

Unfortunately, I don't think it's really possible to cherry-pick the best aspects of both systems in a realistic manner, but between the cons of the two I would rather the cons of capitalism since then there's at least a way out of poverty.

Then, of course, there's the problem that people see in capitalism where wealth aggregates to the top eventually and the system is so entrenched to the point where it's impossible for people to claw their way out of poverty, i.e. my family where my parents each go to work, my mom goes to college to try and get a better job, and I'm about to enter the workforce prematurely so that we have money but we still can't get up there.

Plus, many blame capitalist exploitation of resources on impending climate disaster, so there's that to consider, too.

The United Republics of Dormill and Stiura

Brulafi wrote:Then, of course, there's the problem that people see in capitalism where wealth aggregates to the top eventually and the system is so entrenched to the point where it's impossible for people to claw their way out of poverty, i.e. my family where my parents each go to work, my mom goes to college to try and get a better job, and I'm about to enter the workforce prematurely so that we have money but we still can't get up there.

Plus, many blame capitalist exploitation of resources on impending climate disaster, so there's that to consider, too.

Right, hopefully as time goes on we can find a way to create a sustainable world economy.

Wellsia and Brulafi

Nights edge

I'm uncannily good at getting the RMB onto topics that eventually devolve into actual arguments

The Most Catholic Diarchy of Miklania

Nights edge wrote:I'm uncannily good at getting the RMB onto topics that eventually devolve into actual arguments

I believe the technical term is flame baiting.

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Athara magarat

IMO universal basic services beats universal basic income. Anybody else with universal basic services in their nation around here?

Athara magarat

Dormill and Stiura wrote:Right, hopefully as time goes on we can find a way to create a sustainable world economy.

The UN should evolve into a federation :P

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Brulafi

Athara magarat wrote:IMO universal basic services beats universal basic income. Anybody else with universal basic services in their nation around here?

Such as? I don't know if I'm quite familiar with the term, but if it's what I think it is, I might.

Athara magarat

Brulafi wrote:Such as? I don't know if I'm quite familiar with the term, but if it's what I think it is, I might.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_services

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income

Brulafi

The Most Catholic Diarchy of Miklania

Athara magarat wrote:IMO universal basic services beats universal basic income. Anybody else with universal basic services in their nation around here?

Finland did an experiment with UBI, and as I heard it, decided that it was a spectacular failure.

Athara magarat



Athara magarat

Miklania wrote:Finland did an experiment with UBI, and as I heard it, decided that it was a spectacular failure.

Yeah. UBI is good on paper but let's be honest, it is just a waste of money and also...human nature. I also read that UBI was supposed to help unemployed Finns get jobs but that very few actually did even after UBI was implemented.

Basic services is the far better alternative.

Dragao do mar

Nights edge

Human nature makes it very difficult to actually work with the lower levels of society

The Most Catholic Diarchy of Miklania

Athara magarat wrote:Yeah. UBI is good on paper but let's be honest, it is just a waste of money and also...human nature. I also read that UBI was supposed to help unemployed Finns get jobs but that very few actually did even after UBI was implemented.

Basic services is the far better alternative.

Yeah, if you have a livable income for doing nothing, what motivation is there to not just do nothing?

UBS is better, in my estimation, but seeing the quality of services my government and most others actually provide, it's better the same way getting shot in the foot is better than getting shot in the gut.

The Blue Islands of Corindia

Corindi-Aizconan Joint Space Station


Type: Space Station



Nation of Origin: Corindia, Aizcona
Operators: Corindia, Aizcona

Crew: 5 per mission
Weight: 140,000 kg
Length: 76 m
Internal Volume: 742 cubic meters
Perigee: 440 km
Apogee: 450 km
Completed: May 16th, 2019


Corindi-Aizconan Joint Space Station

The CAJSS is composed of two primary modules, the Fraternité module (produced in Corindia by Acelias, Aeromada, and Corindi Dynamics, seen on the left below) and the Space Lab 1 module (produced in Aizcona, seen on the right below). The main habitation spaces and critical life support systems are contained in the Fraternité module, first launched in 2018, while the majority of the experimental hardware, including a miniature pharmaceutical laboratory amongst other standard orbital testing equipment, is contained in the Space Lab 1 module. Resupply can be performed using standard orbital vehicles or the experimental OS6 "Liberty" cargo lifting-body space plane. The individual modules were carried into low Earth orbit by Corindi Quasar rockets and the Svalbardian Atlas World Bearer Rocket produced by Arildrion Industries, whereas resupply and smaller attachments are brought by the reusable Constelación II launch platform, as it is far more cost efficient.

The station is intended to be kept in continuous operation by the CDS and the Aizconan space program until 2045, at which time it will be safely de-orbited so as to avoid debris remaining in LOE. Basic design work on a successor station, ideally to include more regional partners, has already begun.

The CAJSS facing the sun, with an attached orbital vehicle



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Nights edge

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Athara magarat

Corindia wrote:
Corindi-Aizconan Joint Space Station


Type: Space Station



Nation of Origin: Corindia, Aizcona
Operators: Corindia, Aizcona

Crew: 5 per mission
Weight: 140,000 kg
Length: 76 m
Internal Volume: 742 cubic meters
Perigee: 440 km
Apogee: 450 km
Completed: May 16th, 2019


Corindi-Aizconan Joint Space Station

The CAJSS is composed of two primary modules, the Fraternité module (produced in Corindia by Acelias, Aeromada, and Corindi Dynamics, seen on the left below) and the Space Lab 1 module (produced in Aizcona, seen on the right below). The main habitation spaces and critical life support systems are contained in the Fraternité module, first launched in 2018, while the majority of the experimental hardware, including a miniature pharmaceutical laboratory amongst other standard orbital testing equipment, is contained in the Space Lab 1 module. Resupply can be performed using standard orbital vehicles or the experimental OS6 "Liberty" cargo lifting-body space plane. The individual modules were carried into low Earth orbit by Corindi Quasar rockets and the Svalbardian Atlas World Bearer Rocket produced by Arildrion Industries, whereas resupply and smaller attachments are brought by the reusable Constelación II launch platform, as it is far more cost efficient.

The station is intended to be kept in continuous operation by the CDS and the Aizconan space program until 2045, at which time it will be safely de-orbited so as to avoid debris remaining in LOE. Basic design work on a successor station, ideally to include more regional partners, has already begun.

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joint Space station assembled with help from Polar svalbard is now in orbit, news post to follow

Excellent :)

If you guys can take a couple more 4-5 kg payload? Can you guys take a couple of cubesats as well? We will pay you handsomely.

Brulafi

Athara magarat wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_services

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income

I would say Brulafi offers something close to UBS by nature of being a socialist state, if I understand it well enough.

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viewtopic.php?f=4&t=464451&p=35706126#p35706126

Which one of these four idiots is best suited to become the next king?

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Athara magarat

Domanania wrote:I am in need of Total War: 3 Kingdoms just for the romance mode. That is what interests me

Kings and Generals is doing a series on Three Kingdons after being sponsered by CA. Extra Credits are also doing their own series on this.

I learned first thing that Cao Cao is pronounced Shao Shao not Cow Cow.

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The Holy Kingdom of Agadar

My entire body is sore. Cramps, bruises, and cuts. And especially my buttocks are tenderized.

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Athara magarat wrote:viewtopic.php?f=4&t=464451&p=35706126#p35706126

Which one of these four idiots is best suited to become the next king?

How do we vote?

Athara magarat

Nhoor wrote:How do we vote?

Just type the name of whoever you like and post them :)

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