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The Grand Falconer of Europe of The New Nordic Union | Well, it is a fact that mosques have been attacked. There is a risk of futire attacks, especially in a country where Islamophobia runs rampant. And it's also a fact that protection can prevent future attacks Therefore, saying they don't need protection is tantamount to saying future attacks might as well happen. (Also, you already know that. I am adding this explanation for the benefit of anyone not adept in spotting the tactics.) | |
The Republic of Turenia | It's criticising the modern Islamic religion of being outdated and incompatible. And yes, Christianity is also incompatible. I'm a secularist. No, it really isn't. You're just reaching for any reason to rage and fume over this. | |
The Haugen Matriarchy of St Scarlett | How tf is it a reach to say taking down a shield to something opens it up to an attack? Bigots are always so frustratingly bad faith. Please leave, nobody wants you here. The New Nordic Union, Yahlia, Laver Island, Namsan, and 2 othersVurk, and Potatopelago | |
The Grand Commonwealth Duchy of Australian Luxembourg | I hope you are aware that if mosques are not protected innocent people in places like Gaza could die due to attacks St Scarlett, Namsan, and Vurk | |
The Haugen Matriarchy of St Scarlett | I still love the misplaced confidence and smugness on the person who still supports the Tories when even the Tories don’t support them anymore. The New Nordic Union, Yahlia, Laver Island, Namsan, and 2 othersVurk, and Potatopelago | |
The Republic of Turenia | Because you didn't just say that, did you? You said that I had spoken out in favour of attacks happening. | |
The Republic of Turenia | That's kind of the point I was making in the first place.... | |
The Haugen Matriarchy of St Scarlett | If you condone taking down the shield you’re in favour of the attack. Again, stop being bad faith. It doesn’t matter what you do or don’t say what you imply is crystal clear. | |
The Grand Commonwealth Duchy of Australian Luxembourg | honestly this whole hate crime against muslims and Islam makes no sense. We get so much stuff from the middle east and the surrounding areas. Honestly imo humanity probably wouldn’t have gotten this far with out them. St Scarlett and Vurk | |
The Republic of Turenia | No, that's what you're saying, not what I'm saying. It's not implied at all. Ok, well that was never in question. | |
The Haugen Matriarchy of St Scarlett | If you knock the shield out of someone’s hand before they get shot, you don’t have to say “I want them to get shot” to be in favour of them being shot. If you take away the protection of a mosque before it gets attacked, you don’t have to say “I want it to be attacked” to be in favour of it being attacked. It’s not complicated. | |
The Grand Falconer of Europe of The New Nordic Union | And even if not, people don't deserve to get hatecrimed even if they did not benefit the societal majority in any way Yahlia, Laver Island, St Scarlett, Australian Luxembourg, and 3 othersNamsan, Vurk, and Potatopelago | |
The Republic of Turenia | But there's not a certainty that a Mosque will be attacked. Synagogues are far more at risk since the start of the Israel-Hamas war. For some reason, I think you'd disagree if some proposed arming US teachers to defend against shooters, and if I were anything like you, I'd start hysterically shrieking about how you're in favour of school shootings. But that's an argument for another time. | |
The Haugen Matriarchy of St Scarlett | Oh my god they’re full of the worst possible takes 😒 | |
The Dominion of Grespa | DAILY POLITICAL QUESTION #5 FAVORITE PRESIDENT? Bhadeshistan and Vurk | |
The Haugen Matriarchy of St Scarlett | It doesn’t have to be certain, it’s still very likely. Both should be protected And no, weirdly enough I don’t think the solution to school shootings is more guns in schools. | |
The Grand Falconer of Europe of The New Nordic Union | It's not like it's either synagogues or mosques that can have protection. Both can and should if there's a risk (which there is). The absurdity of arming teachers is that a) that's not a teacher's but law enforcement's job and b) near none of it would be necessary with a normal gun policy. Also, nice strawman you built there. | |
The Grand Falconer of Europe of The New Nordic Union | Andreas Voßkuhle | |
The Republic of Turenia | "Hm, well this clearly means you WANT more schools shootings to occur". This is the type of hysterical nonsense you've been shrieking for the past page-and-a-half. | |
The Grand Commonwealth Duchy of Australian Luxembourg | Considering reports how much Gaza has been bombed and destroyed and barely any reports on Israel being attacked I highly doubt Synagogues are at more risk of attack. In fact i think it is the other way around i think Mosque are at more risk of being attacked St Scarlett and Vurk | |
The Haugen Matriarchy of St Scarlett | Not comparable, take your bad faith bigotry somewhere else it’s not welcome here. | |
The Grand Falconer of Europe of The New Nordic Union | Well we should be careful with making blanket statements; at least here, following 7.10., synagogues were attacked in high numbers. Since we were talking about a western country (the UK), I guess that's the metric we should apply to the discussion. | |
The Grand Commonwealth Duchy of Australian Luxembourg | having more guns in schools is going to let people who want to shoot up a school be less likely to be arrested for having a gun before it’s too late | |
The Haugen Matriarchy of St Scarlett | Looks like someone’s not compatible with Europe’s RMB | |
The Haugen Matriarchy of St Scarlett | Astrid Haugen ❤️ |