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That was after being for them. He is only moving to center to get independents. So how do you know he is fact progressive and not a moderate look at his vp. He could have choosen Duckworth but choose the number 4 most liberal senator as his vp. I was reading article that was talking about how bernie supporters were not going to conceed unless he agreed to Medicare for all. He was also for defunding police and now he is not. He is doing the typical political shuffle but at end of day he will do what the base wants him to do moderates have zero power right now

Reformed bean yourekesstoider wrote:

That was after being for them. He is only moving to center to get independents. So how do you know he is fact progressive and not a moderate look at his vp. He could have choosen Duckworth but choose the number 4 most liberal senator as his vp. I was reading article that was talking about how bernie supporters were not going to conceed unless he agreed to Medicare for all. He was also for defunding police and now he is not. He is doing the typical political shuffle but at end of day he will do what the base wants him to do moderates have zero power right now

No, he was never for them (including defunding police). I actually watched all the Dem debates. He won't do what the base wants. That's just projection on your part. Republicans fear their base, the Dems have contempt for theirs. That's the difference between the parties. But that's beyond the point. You are just trying to rationalize voting for a man who calls you "disgusting". As for me, even if Biden actually were a socialist (which he's not - I grew up in the Soviet Union, so I know a socialist when I see one), that would be a small price to pay to ensure that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. That's what's really at stake. Democracy and freedom.

I honestly wanted Bernie to win the primary, but I’ll stick with Biden this election

Midlands wrote:

Trump and Putin also wanted him to win.

it would make for an actually good election year and not this... depressing one... yeesh

I'm gonna be honest, Biden's not a radical, not even close. Hell, people were saying he wasn't radical enough back before he was the democratic candidate. Plus, even if he was, he'd likely just spend his entire term dealing with the Coronavirus and undoing its wake of destruction. And honestly Trump has demonstrated time and again that he's both corrupt and grossly incompetent. Let's not forget when he suggested that the 1918 Spanish flu 'probably' ended the second world war. Like, Biden may be slipping but he's not that far gone, and has decades of political experience and knowledge to fall back on.

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New Portuguese Empire wrote:

I'm gonna be honest, Biden's not a radical, not even close. Hell, people were saying he wasn't radical enough back before he was the democratic candidate Plus, even if he was, He'd likely just spend his entire term dealing with the Coronavirus and undoing its wake of destruction. And honestly Trump has demonstrated time and again that he's both corrupt and grossly incompetent. Let's not forget when he suggested that the 1918 Spanish flu 'probably' ended the second world war. Like, Biden may be slipping but he's not that far gone, and has decades of political experience and knowledge to fall back on.

decades havent added up to anything. 40 years and he hasnt done anything good

Hasn't suggested that anyone should be able to break the Constitution by running for a third term, and as far as I know, hasn't told anyone to illegally vote twice either.

Honestly though, both candidates just make me wish there was a third major party.

Malotihuacan wrote:

it would make for an actually good election year and not this... depressing one... yeesh

It would be a bad election year. GOP in control of everything in DC in 2021. Just like in 2017, but with Trump 1) never facing the voters again and 2) already knowing with absolute certainty that the GOP will let him get away with literally anything - e.g. withdrawing from NATO in exchange for a YUGE bribe from Putin.

Hello!!

Whens the next election?

Cagluelia wrote:

Whens the next election?

Now. I already have my ballot (since last week - just need to get around to filling it). And some people have already voted in person.

I don’t get into American politics that much but can someone make a list of why you like the candidate you voting for and a list on why not the other candidate. Also people don’t say cuz he’s not the other guy.

idk im not american

Deldacia wrote:

I don’t get into American politics that much but can someone make a list of why you like the candidate you voting for and a list on why not the other candidate. Also people don’t say cuz he’s not the other guy.

But it's the actual reason he's not the other guy. For starters, any election featuring an incumbent president is a referendum on him. And this is especially true this time. There are actually things to like about Biden (e.g. his empathy), but I'm sure I won't like his policies. I'm voting for him and for Democrats down the ballot because the difference between liberalism and illiberalism is more important to me than the difference between Left and Right. I have always supported the liberal Right (Bush, McCain, Romney), but it's no longer one of the option. And I will not support the illiberal Right (well, I would support it, reluctantly, against the illiberal Left - e.g. Pinochet over Castro).

Midlands wrote:

But it's the actual reason he's not the other guy. For starters, any election featuring an incumbent president is a referendum on him. And this is especially true this time. There are actually things to like about Biden (e.g. his empathy), but I'm sure I won't like his policies. I'm voting for him and for Democrats down the ballot because the difference between liberalism and illiberalism is more important to me than the difference between Left and Right. I have always supported the liberal Right (Bush, McCain, Romney), but it's no longer one of the option. And I will not support the illiberal Right (well, I would support it, reluctantly, against the illiberal Left - e.g. Pinochet over Castro).

Thank you.
If anyone else has a different reason or a different opinion please share I’d like to know so then I can get a bigger grasp on the whole thing.

Ancapaland69 wrote:

idk im not american

Hello im not american!

Hey, just joined!

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Malotihuacan wrote:

decades havent added up to anything. 40 years and he hasnt done anything good

In many people's eyes he hasn't done much good because he was shadowed by Obama's spotlight, he still did do many good thing to some degree. Plus, doing no good things is better than doing bad things. Trump has done quite a lot of bad things according to a majority of Americans, so it would be more logical to vote Biden in so we can at least have some peace. Also, to everyone: just because he is Democratic and doesn't have the same views as some people doesn't mean he is a radical.

Finkton wrote:

In many people's eyes he hasn't done much good because he was shadowed by Obama's spotlight, he still did do many good thing to some degree. Plus, doing no good things is better than doing bad things. Trump has done quite a lot of bad things according to a majority of Americans, so it would be more logical to vote Biden in so we can at least have some peace. Also, to everyone: just because he is Democratic and doesn't have the same views as some people doesn't mean he is a radical.

one thing that both obama and biden don't know; central banking system.

trump low-key knows how it works, that's why, counterintuitively, he keep deficit spending, give tax cuts and lower tax rate. he also subsidized tech and agriculture companies, increased defense spending.

all resulted in increased exchange volume in stock market, preventing capital flight despite of covid.

it turned out, the foul mouthed orange guy is a low-key genius in macroeconomics. even hayek would be proud of him.

Finkton wrote:

In many people's eyes he hasn't done much good because he was shadowed by Obama's spotlight, he still did do many good thing to some degree. Plus, doing no good things is better than doing bad things. Trump has done quite a lot of bad things according to a majority of Americans, so it would be more logical to vote Biden in so we can at least have some peace. Also, to everyone: just because he is Democratic and doesn't have the same views as some people doesn't mean he is a radical.

I have quite a long list off good trump has done for the country if you would like me to list some points just tell me how many points you want and I’ll send them.

Arcanagara wrote:

one thing that both obama and biden don't know; central banking system.

trump low-key knows how it works, that's why, counterintuitively, he keep deficit spending, give tax cuts and lower tax rate. he also subsidized tech and agriculture companies, increased defense spending.

all resulted in increased exchange volume in stock market, preventing capital flight despite of covid.

it turned out, the foul mouthed orange guy is a low-key genius in macroeconomics. even hayek would be proud of him.

I do agree that his knowledge on that topic is good, but the guy seriously doesn't know a lot of things that make a good president/politician. Half of his entire time in office has been firing people, calling his opponents childish names, and downplaying the severity of serious issues. We need someone who can act like a politician at the very least so we can see through the absurd things that had been said, and not be dumbed down by simpleton language.