Painocrats: It doesn't for now, it will be once we achieve it. What is a failure? There's no such thing as fail or failure in our perfect universe, or will be the perfect universe.
No it can not. It’s merely how physics works- You can not create something if you are not there, therefor, you can not create a universe if you remove this one.
Painocrats: It seems that the Wireans is not as smart as we thought. Let the perfect image teach you something. The world is under a law, a law we don't understand, but that law applies to everything. Gravity affects light, time and the universe itself. For something to have an effect, it must have an cause. For the big bang to happen, there has to be something that triggers it. If something doesn't exist, it'll exist. That something doesn't have to exist to cause or effect something.
Painocrats: Foolish, gravity does exist, that what the Soulist are trying to get rid off. Such basic concept you fail to understand when primitive does.
Painocrats: Of course it is a thing. But it does exist under the laws of the universe. I believe you don't understand what exist means. A name for a thing and that thing is space time bending, which in our case, consider existing.
Painocrats: Gravity, after all, pulls space, time, energy, matters and all things together. And we see it, we are not blind. Continue your game Wireans, but you must understand the laws, it applies to everyone, until it doesn't.
The laws dont matter. The universe functions as it is, one does not need to know how a machine works to use it, otherwise, everyone would be an engineer.
Painocrats: You can dream, but you can not avoid the law. You can decide it doesn't matter, but it'll still affect you. The universe is for us to be in, but we wish for answers, one does not need to know, but want to know. Everyone can be an engineer, but doesn't need to for them to understand the law of the universe. Get your study right, you need the correct information, that's what hives are for.
OOC: You're talking to the Painocrats. Painocrats: You don't have to, it's the matter if one wishes to, which we do. It's tiny, we'll fix that, it's meaningless, we'll fix that. We will fix what's wrong in our world, once we restart the universe and rebuild it how the Perfect Image wanted it. You want to leave, go ahead. Me not in IC: I agree, the universe is meaningless and we should leave it. The only exit is death =)
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