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The Former UK PM of Laver Island

Ramonasche wrote:Laver Island have you been to Tivoli :3

The ones in Copenhagen or in general?

The Federal Queendom of Elisabethshagen

Noristoniaka wrote:You're not a true Alabamian 😒

You're fully right: I am a Mecklenburger. ;-)

The Former UK PM of Laver Island

The New Nordic Union wrote:Thing is, youths are affected by politics and therefore able to form an opinion on the matter. Why shouldn't they be able to organise? It's not like five year olds are indoctrinated in those organisations (Not to mention that usually youth wing members range from about 16 to 35 and include a large number/majority of adults)

Not to mention that the youngest members of youth wings typically come from a background of politics anyways. Were they groomed by their parents? 🤔

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The Grand Falconer of Europe of The New Nordic Union

Elisabethshagen wrote:You're fully right: I am a Mecklenburger. ;-)

A McLen burger, also known as a Fischbrötchen

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The Militarist Police State of Burvenchkaht

The Kingdom of Denmark wrote:Interesting

From what I've found Heraklion is a pretty nice city to visit in Crete. They also have some nice daytrips or tours from various ports across the coast, and hotels are pretty cheap, especially for being so close to the beach. I looked at Gramvousa and Balos beach and that looks really cool.

That amphitheater and city you recommended, would you happen to know what's like the nearest airport/port to that sort of area?

Many of the major cities have airport/sports, due to the fact that most of our income mostly comes from tourists.
heres a map of all the (major) airports:
https://www.greeka.com/greece-travel/airports/
if you scroll down enough you'll find a map.
PS. I also recommend Santorini.

The Federal Queendom of Elisabethshagen

The New Nordic Union wrote:A McLen burger, also known as a Fischbrötchen

Don't bite me! I'm also beware of gulls always!

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The Former UK PM of Laver Island

Vivian is gonna get harassed by Musk fanboys on twitter 😔

The United States enclave of Antarus Redaction

Laver Island wrote:Vivian is gonna get harassed by Musk fanboys on twitter 😔

I don't use twitter

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The Former UK PM of Laver Island

Antarus Redaction wrote:I don't use twitter

But are you a Musk fanboy going to harass Vivian? 👁👄👁

The Consecrated Kingdom of The Oriental Empire

Laver Island wrote:Not to mention that the youngest members of youth wings typically come from a background of politics anyways. Were they groomed by their parents? 🤔

Honestly I'd say yes, or at least kinda

This is a problem in countries like Sweden,
Generations of politicians following in their politician-parents footsteps muddling down their arguments and detaching themselves for reality,

Imo politics for the sake of politics rarely does anything, that's how we end up with people like Marine le Pen, and Stefan Löfven, people so detached from reality that the politics they push for has no real meaning other than to "be different"

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The Former UK PM of Laver Island

The Oriental Empire wrote:Honestly I'd say yes, or at least kinda

This is a problem in countries like Sweden,
Generations of politicians following in their politician-parents footsteps muddling down their arguments and detaching themselves for reality,

Imo politics for the sake of politics rarely does anything, that's how we end up with people like Marine le Pen, and Stefan Löfven, people so detached from reality that the politics they push for has no real meaning other than to "be different"

I think calling Löfven out of touch is a bit misleading given his background and his employment history. I think Löfven was never the right person for the post as Statsminister and many of his actions may have been desperate attempts to stay in power more so than they were him not knowing the life of an average Swede. I think your criticism of youth wing parties is a bit too generalising and unfair tbh. If youth parties are bad because children follow their career politician parents, then what stops the same logic from applying to children of doctors becoming doctors? Should we limit individuals and institutions so people strictly don't become what their parents are/were? Imo youth wings serve as an excellent and more understanding entry into politics than their 'adult' counterparts. Elites will always occupy high ranking positions in every imaginable institution you can think of for no other reason than their parents were elites 🤷

Qubeq republic

Libertandonien wrote:꒐꓄'ꇙ ꃳꋬ꒯

😢😢😭🥵😡🤯🤬
We can’t agree on text style, ok 👍 everyone is different.

But this thing we can agree on:
Messi > CR7

The Dual Republics of Kanokla

I slam my head on the table everytime I see someone blame Joe Biden exclusively for high fuel prices. 🙃

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Ath orpseben

Laver Island wrote:I think calling Löfven out of touch is a bit misleading given his background and his employment history. I think Löfven was never the right person for the post as Statsminister and many of his actions may have been desperate attempts to stay in power more so than they were him not knowing the life of an average Swede. I think your criticism of youth wing parties is a bit too generalising and unfair tbh. If youth parties are bad because children follow their career politician parents, then what stops the same logic from applying to children of doctors becoming doctors? Should we limit individuals and institutions so people strictly don't become what their parents are/were? Imo youth wings serve as an excellent and more understanding entry into politics than their 'adult' counterparts. Elites will always occupy high ranking positions in every imaginable institution you can think of for no other reason than their parents were elites 🤷

Löfven has resigned and Magdalena Andersson is the Prime minister since November last year

Qubeq republic



The Consecrated Kingdom of The Oriental Empire

Laver Island wrote:I think calling Löfven out of touch is a bit misleading given his background and his employment history. I think Löfven was never the right person for the post as Statsminister and many of his actions may have been desperate attempts to stay in power more so than they were him not knowing the life of an average Swede.

In the end he seems to have forgotten what his party stands for, eventually implementing things not exactly in the best interest of the working class

Laver Island wrote:I think your criticism of youth wing parties is a bit too generalising and unfair tbh. If youth parties are bad because children follow their career politician parents, then what stops the same logic from applying to children of doctors becoming doctors? Should we limit individuals and institutions so people strictly don't become what their parents are/were? Imo youth wings serve as an excellent and more understanding entry into politics than their 'adult' counterparts. Elites will always occupy high ranking positions in every imaginable institution you can think of for no other reason than their parents were elites 🤷

I think that purely conceptually, initiatives taken to encourage the youth of a nation to get involved in certain careers and workplaces are good. However it's just the moral aspects of it that somewhat bother me, (its no major dislike or anything just something that irks me). I suppose it all comes down to free will, parents will natural play a role in what their children become, but can you really say that a child of two doctors enter the medical field by free will? Do they have free will when subliminal stimuli surround every aspect of their lives? If you ask me, I'd say no. It is difficult to define an action as one taken by ones own initiative if the person in question has been conditioned to do it, where the border between free will and parental sublimation falls I do not know, all I can say however is that any action dependant on these kinds of things are morally grey.

It is good yes to try to break down the almost oligarchic politician families of the world who've been in power for generations, I just feel that by taking the same actions as the elite, to teach and condition kids from a young age, doesn't make the field of politics better. So as a semi-coherent answer, I do not exactly think that it is morally just to train and condition kids to help taking down the elites of a country, however perhaps it is necessary to make the world a more fair place. The thing that irks me is the usage of similar methods to the elite families, as I believe that kids aught to be spared of being conditioned into political pawns

Maybe not the most #woke and based take but that is at least how I perceive it



Ath orpseben

Kanokla wrote:I slam my head on the table everytime I see someone blame Joe Biden exclusively for high fuel prices. 🙃

Yesterday My dad saw that his car had very little gas so when he stopped to fuel the car he saw the price of 95 had increased from 2.37€ to 2.43€ so 0.06€ in 24 hours😱 crazy and as I live in Sweden the inflation rate is 7%!!!!!!

Qubeq republic



The Former UK PM of Laver Island

Ath orpseben wrote:Löfven has resigned and Magdalena Andersson is the Prime minister since November last year

Y-yes I read the news...?

The Oriental Empire wrote:In the end he seems to have forgotten what his party stands for, eventually implementing things not exactly in the best interest of the working class.

I'd make a "SuccDems are Capitalists too" joke here but then I'll be labelled an extremist by Yahlia 😔

The Oriental Empire wrote:
I think that purely conceptually, initiatives taken to encourage the youth of a nation to get involved in certain careers and workplaces are good. However it's just the moral aspects of it that somewhat bother me, (its no major dislike or anything just something that irks me). I suppose it all comes down to free will, parents will natural play a role in what their children become, but can you really say that a child of two doctors enter the medical field by free will? Do they have free will when subliminal stimuli surround every aspect of their lives? If you ask me, I'd say no. It is difficult to define an action as one taken by ones own initiative if the person in question has been conditioned to do it, where the border between free will and parental sublimation falls I do not know, all I can say however is that any action dependant on these kinds of things are morally grey.

It is good yes to try to break down the almost oligarchic politician families of the world who've been in power for generations, I just feel that by taking the same actions as the elite, to teach and condition kids from a young age, doesn't make the field of politics better. So as a semi-coherent answer, I do not exactly think that it is morally just to train and condition kids to help taking down the elites of a country, however perhaps it is necessary to make the world a more fair place. The thing that irks me is the usage of similar methods to the elite families, as I believe that kids aught to be spared of being conditioned into political pawns

Maybe not the most #woke and based take but that is at least how I perceive it

I don't I disagree with you on this I think (if I made sense of what you wrote.) As a wannabe and possibly soon to be Sociologist, I can tell you it is true that humans are endlessly shaped and formed by their social and cultural environment. Rarely if anything done by humans comes from a place that was not heavily influenced by factors beyond the individual.

If we want to address the problem with elitist families doing elitist things at everyone's expense than you must reform several aspects of society to ensure that elites mingle more with commoners and to ensure actual equal opportunity where a person's home environment and socio-economic background are limited in scope and influence and [obligatory combat systemic bigotry message here].
So youth parties as a concept I think is excellent but perhaps undermined in certain aspects by current societal norms and tendencies.

Libertandonien

Laver Island wrote:Vivian is gonna get harassed by Musk fanboys on twitter 😔

Musk fanvoys: "Twitter is used as a left-wing cancel-website!!!"
Also Musk fanboys:

Laver Island wrote:I think calling Löfven out of touch is a bit misleading given his background and his employment history. I think Löfven was never the right person for the post as Statsminister and many of his actions may have been desperate attempts to stay in power more so than they were him not knowing the life of an average Swede. I think your criticism of youth wing parties is a bit too generalising and unfair tbh. If youth parties are bad because children follow their career politician parents, then what stops the same logic from applying to children of doctors becoming doctors? Should we limit individuals and institutions so people strictly don't become what their parents are/were? Imo youth wings serve as an excellent and more understanding entry into politics than their 'adult' counterparts. Elites will always occupy high ranking positions in every imaginable institution you can think of for no other reason than their parents were elites 🤷

I don't have a problem with youth wings tbh
If young people want to engage in political matters, then they should be able to do so

Qubeq republic wrote:😢😢😭🥵😡🤯🤬
We can’t agree on text style, ok 👍 everyone is different.

But this thing we can agree on:
Messi > CR7

Siiiiiuuuu

Qubeq republic

Libertandonien wrote:Musk fanvoys: "Twitter is used as a left-wing cancel-website!!!"
Also Musk fanboys:
I don't have a problem with youth wings tbh
If young people want to engage in political matters, then they should be able to do so
Siiiiiuuuu

Mbappe > haaland

Ath orpseben

Ath orpseben

Qubeq republic wrote:Mbappe > haaland

KYLIAN MABAPPE LOTIN
G.O.A.T

The Former UK PM of Laver Island

Libertandonien wrote:Musk fanvoys: "Twitter is used as a left-wing cancel-website!!!"
Also Musk fanboys:

Didn't US Conservatives cancel Nike multiple times on Twitter lol?
I do recall that they cancelled [US] footballers for kneeling during the anthem which cost them their career in [US] football

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Ramonasche

Laver Island wrote:The ones in Copenhagen or in general?

The one in Cøpenhagen

Ath orpseben wrote:Yesterday My dad saw that his car had very little gas so when he stopped to fuel the car he saw the price of 95 had increased from 2.37€ to 2.43€ so 0.06€ in 24 hours😱 crazy and as I live in Sweden the inflation rate is 7%!!!!!!

*coughs in US prices going up two dollars in one day*

Libertandonien wrote:Musk fanvoys: "Twitter is used as a left-wing cancel-website!!!"
Also Musk fanboys:

Why anyone would stan Elon is beyond me

Laver Island wrote:Didn't US Conservatives cancel Nike multiple times on Twitter lol?
I do recall that they cancelled [US] footballers for kneeling during the anthem which cost them their career in [US] football

Conservatives cancel anyone that doesn’t 100% agree with their agenda, so it’s pretty easy to get cancelled by them

Libertandonien

Laver Island wrote:Didn't US Conservatives cancel Nike multiple times on Twitter lol?
I do recall that they cancelled [US] footballers for kneeling during the anthem which cost them their career in [US] football

Bruh, they do that all the time

Reminds me of the WOKE BRANDS video of Hbomb that I watched yesterday. There was a Nike ad that talked about black people or something. After that, there were hundreds of Tweets that showed people destroying their clothes from Nike. One guy even burned five pairs of shoes, including one he ''bought 3 days ago'' 💀

Ramonasche wrote:The one in Cøpenhagen*coughs in US prices going up two dollars in one day*Why anyone would stan Elon is beyond me
Conservatives cancel anyone that doesn’t 100% agree with their agenda, so it’s pretty easy to get cancelled by them

I was once a Musk-fanboy, bc I found EVs and SpaceX cool

but I was like 13 back then XD

The Former UK PM of Laver Island

Ramonasche wrote:The one in Cøpenhagen*coughs in US prices going up two dollars in one day*Why anyone would stan Elon is beyond me
Conservatives cancel anyone that doesn’t 100% agree with their agenda, so it’s pretty easy to get cancelled by them

No I've never been in Københavns Tivoli D:
I was in Tivoli Friheden in Aarhus as a kid but I hardly remember it.
Other than that I've been in some generic travelling tivolier

Qubeq republic

Libertandonien wrote:Bruh, they do that all the time

Reminds me of the WOKE BRANDS video of Hbomb that I watched yesterday. There was a Nike ad that talked about black people or something. After that, there were hundreds of Tweets that showed people destroying their clothes from Nike. One guy even burned five pairs of shoes, including one he ''bought 3 days ago'' 💀
I was once a Musk-fanboy, bc I found EVs and SpaceX cool

but I was like 13 back then XD

But Nike makes good shoes!

I have a pair of Nike phantom GT elite white/black/pink

But adidas is better because I have a pair of Adidas predator edge 4 blue/orange and they are a lot better and fresher because I bought them 15 June on my birthday

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