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The Endorsed Libertanny Last of Dreamersistan

I have a STUNNING version of the story I was working on a few days ago, I just love where it's going.

A key to creative work is, just hang with it. If it feels like it's going nowhere but you see some spark, give it time to breathe and live in your head. Don't throw it away. Find similiar things to watch or listen to, and the keywords will flow from the subconscious to the conscious

The Me me lord of of Of Centralist Brexit

Order of the saint Dumas wrote: so I did this one issue, and it was about some vitamin beverage thing and I said yeah that's pretty good lets keep advertising that. So when I pressed that button it said my law enforcement went down , how the hell does that happan ?

the criminals would take 2 drinks of the vitamin beverage to their bank robberys
they would be immortal

The Holy military sanctus of Order of the saint Dumas

Of Centralist Brexit wrote:the criminals would take 2 drinks of the vitamin beverage to their bank robberys
they would be immortal

Now that makes sense , how dumb of me lol

Numenorean empoire

Marrabuk wrote:Raise your hands now if your armpit smells like snails with barbecue sauce

*doesnt raise hand*

The Endorsed Libertanny Last of Dreamersistan

Numenorean empoire wrote:*doesnt raise hand*

Clear sign ur armpits smell of snail

Welcome to TEP. What the hecc happened in Avra?

The Me me lord of of Of Centralist Brexit

hehe im going to tell funny joke
poop

The Democratic Republic of Akelele

Of Centralist Brexit wrote:hehe im going to tell funny joke
poop

What

The United States of Kianhua

Shavara wrote:Hey guys, should I do a Chaz rip-off RP in San Sierra?

Can I liberate you if that happens?

The Holy Capitalist Haven of La xinga

Its time.

Technocratic Tagalog and Intoriorem

Intoriorem

La xinga wrote:Its time.

For what?

The People's Republic of Zanzimibia

Technocratic Tagalog wrote:Ay yo Distro-Spartica and Zanzimibia did Zidium joined austral? I'm editing the map eh

Sorry I was asleep but yes he did

via The Glorious Nations of Iwaku

The Coronaducc of The Angel of Charity

Dreamersistan wrote:I have a STUNNING version of the story I was working on a few days ago, I just love where it's going.

A key to creative work is, just hang with it. If it feels like it's going nowhere but you see some spark, give it time to breathe and live in your head. Don't throw it away. Find similiar things to watch or listen to, and the keywords will flow from the subconscious to the conscious

If this is true, why does my creative work tie itself into contradicting knots the longer I work on it?

Truly a mystery.

The Gyrodian SFR of Kavanos

Of Centralist Brexit wrote:hehe im going to tell funny joke
poop

Uh...Wut

The Me me lord of of Of Centralist Brexit

Kavanos wrote:Uh...Wut

thats the joke
the joke is im not intelec

The Endorsed Libertanny Last of Dreamersistan

The Angel of Charity wrote:If this is true, why does my creative work tie itself into contradicting knots the longer I work on it?

Truly a mystery.

Because most likely, you don't understand the structure of narrative and you have more work to do

It could be that the particular work you're looking at, might just have no future. That happens too... you'll gain instinctive knowledge of what works and what's throwaway after playing with hundreds of ideas

Sometimes things do get more complicated before it starts to become clear.. That's the time you need to persevere. But writers need many tools.. knowledge of various genres, sub-genres, how a structure 'should' finish, the basic rules, the advanced rules that underlie the basic rules. You can break the basic rule, but never the advanced rules

People like Kafka and Hemingway and King tied themselves into knots because they didn't plot. But even if you don't plot, you will, by dint of practice, move towards a bunch of possibilities as you write.

I'm currently working on learning mostly plotless, multiple POV, no-good-guy, no-through-line storytelling. It's very confusing because anyone could die, no one's a hero that has to live, no ending is clear, and I mix and match genres. But the way starts off universally will set the mood for your work. You change it too much, no matter how great your skill, your audience will hate you. The way you start does lock in your story or narrative into max a dozen finishes. How do you know the right one? You just try different combinations, till you find what fits. And if you don't like it, you try other things. Switching out themes, foreshadowing, plants, the moral view of each character. It gets annoying, but this is where real writing lies. Working within your own world, and the rules you set for characters.

The events you decide on shouldn't t break the rules of the story world, or make characters do what they can't possibly do, just for the story to make sense. If you do, the story won't work. There aren't an infinite combination of events in a story.. each genre might have 20 major variations max. Each character might win, lose or ally with others, form groups, and the characters' moral views will either be proven true, false, unimportant or random. Looking into some of the longest works ever written, such as Ice and Fire or Malazan or The Stand, there always were a limited number of satisfying possibilities. The hero wins.. the villian wins.. the hero turns villian.. both win.. both lose.. the world resets.. the world is destroyed.. the villian becomes hero.. the hero and villian die.. the heros' ally becomes new hero... the villian's ally becomes new villian.. etc etc. Other possibilities, like the hero's unremarkable long lost brother becomes the hero, won't be satisfying. The villian's dog brings all of them together and makes everyone live happily ever after will not make sense.

Stories are problem solving exercises, treatises on the right moral stances and exercises in human change. Depending on the kind of start you make you have only 6 to 10 satisfying conclusions you can get to. These change from genre to genre. Practice, experience or an unusually competent mind will teach you the possibiltiies you can choose from. Trial and error will teach you which one is best for the specific story you're telling. Whether it be Christie, Grisham, Murakami or Shakespeare, or Hemingway, King, Kafka, Nabokov, or Martin, the way they set up their stories forces them towards certain endings. Plotters andarchitects do it before writing the prose. Gardeners and farmers do it as they go along. It's just a matter of experience and going down dead ends, till you find the right paths

The San Sierran Republic of Shavara

Kianhua wrote:Can I liberate you if that happens?

No, you cannot. It would be nothing but a tiny commune.

The Endorsed Libertanny Last of Dreamersistan

Technocratic Tagalog where are u and where's ur trusty charger?

I summon thee!

The Tyranny of Aivintis

Of Centralist Brexit wrote:hehe im going to tell funny joke
poop

I really like this joke. It causes me to make the spontaneous sounds and movements of the face and body that are the instinctive expressions of lively amusement and sometimes also of contempt or derision

The San Sierran Republic of Shavara

By the way, good almost-late morning everyone.

The Mont Noire Tea Kingdom of Gorbastan

Shavara wrote:By the way, good almost-late morning everyone.

You too.

*sips Tea*

The San Sierran Republic of Shavara

Gorbastan wrote:You too.

*sips Tea*

*Sips coffee*

How are you?

The Mont Noire Tea Kingdom of Gorbastan

Shavara wrote:*Sips coffee*

How are you?

Cold. Bored.

I never have anything interesting ever happen.

The San Sierran Republic of Shavara

Gorbastan wrote:Cold. Bored.

I never have anything interesting ever happen.

Ah.

I was tired and coffee energized me, but it didn't stop me from being bored.

The Mont Noire Tea Kingdom of Gorbastan

Shavara wrote:Ah.

I was tired and coffee energized me, but it didn't stop me from being bored.

I don't understand how people can retire.

It seems so boring to be home all the time.

The San Sierran Republic of Shavara

Gorbastan wrote:I don't understand how people can retire.

It seems so boring to be home all the time.

Same.

I want this to be a reality.
https://youtu.be/BqVhcvU4mIo

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