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The Kingdom of Kyratistani

The most serene republicans wrote:Irrelevant to anyone but me, but Recife is currently underwater. The rain is finally beginning to stop now after 12+ hours of continuous rain. And Recife is a city-sized raft floating over a swamp, so everything always floods (there's a neighborhood near where I live literally called "drowned ones"). And the tides are starting to rise so it's about to get worse.

So much for the Brazillian Venice, ay?
EDIT: nvm the rain is back
I like the message and the design, especially how "lose it" looks like a hole in the picture

Você é brasileiro?

Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Bele Levy Epies, Nation of ecologists, and 3 othersGarbelia, The most serene republicans, and The world wildlife fund

The Matriarchy of The Teeth

I've been lucky enough to see a fair few different wild animals up close because I live rurally and I've worked on remote farms in Norway and Scotland.
I also often sit very quietly for a long time without moving, just because I'm kinda slow and like the feeling of peacefulness.
I don't know which creatures people find interesting so I'll just name any I can think of.

At home, I've seen otters, badgers, foxes, kingfishers, capercailies, sika deer, red deer, roe deer, muntjac deer (because Scotland), red squirrels, cormorants, adders, puffins, barn owls (lots), hen harriers, buzzards, dolphins, bats (in the roof), huge dragonflies, pine martens, cuckoos, curlews, seals, a scottish wildcat, and mountain hares.
the village I live in also has an enormous canada goose population in the winter.
I'm probably forgetting lots.

In Norway I've seen reindeer, deer, a bear, geese, and foxes (bigger than our local ones).
I saw lots of lynx tracks in the snow but no lynx.
A young male elk also accidentally walked right up to me because we didn't see each other, which was a bit alarming because they're more likely to panic and run at you than most predators, who will weigh up risk and judge a human to be too risky. I tried moving slowly and casually while singing a little and he ran away from me in a spiral while making a trumpeting sound. I think he was giving a warning to other elk and pinpointing location with the circle.

Once in the Rockies in Canada when I was about 10, I went to put something in a public bin, turned a corner, and a bear was a few feet away from me bashing the bin in.
he looked at me, looked at what I was holding, snorted, then got back to bashing the bin. 😂

Verdant Haven, Einswenn, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, and 10 othersRuinenlust, New latin locality, Uan aa Boa, Terrabod, Bele Levy Epies, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, The most serene republicans, and The world wildlife fund

The Rriknor of Einswenn

Einswenn wrote:I’ve never seen a wild fox either

A brief update on that: today, right after lodging the post last night, I’ve encountered a wild fox! Although it was on a highway, laying down after a deadly hit by a car. Such things sadden me a lot. This event led me to think about bears waking up these days and reaching highways and suburbs, causing harm or getting harmed. Soon there definitely will be the time of endless forest fires which will also push the wild animals away, towards the cities and towns.

While briefly exploring some nearby forests I’ve seen too much of broken glass which is one of the common reasons these fires spark. The garbaged area is so large and so unnoticeable at the first sight so it requires whole squads of people to clean the mess up.

And then there will be others coming to throw freshy-fresh glass around again. Sometimes i think humanity a disgrace to the planet. Nah, ranting again.

Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, New latin locality, and 11 othersUan aa Boa, Terrabod, The Teeth, Lura, Bele Levy Epies, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, Arklanda, The most serene republicans, and The world wildlife fund

The Republic of Bele Levy Epies

Einswenn wrote:A brief update on that: today, right after lodging the post last night, I’ve encountered a wild fox! Although it was on a highway, laying down after a deadly hit by a car. Such things sadden me a lot. This event led me to think about bears waking up these days and reaching highways and suburbs, causing harm or getting harmed. Soon there definitely will be the time of endless forest fires which will also push the wild animals away, towards the cities and towns.

While briefly exploring some nearby forests I’ve seen too much of broken glass which is one of the common reasons these fires spark. The garbaged area is so large and so unnoticeable at the first sight so it requires whole squads of people to clean the mess up.

And then there will be others coming to throw freshy-fresh glass around again. Sometimes i think humanity a disgrace to the planet. Nah, ranting again.

I have seen a hare near the central railway station of the city where I live. It must have followed the railway from the wild.

Einswenn, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, The Teeth, and 6 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, Arklanda, The most serene republicans, and The world wildlife fund

Nation of ecologists

The most serene republicans wrote:Thank you.
We call it "raincife" in days like this.
And update: it's still raining, but a lot less. I'm fine and all of my family and friends are fine. Though most streets usually flood, the houses are safe in most neighborhoods. I'm just very worried about the slums and stilt houses... Really rainy days are their own sort of disaster for them. If you've watched Parasite, it gets to the level of the flooding scenes very often. Even in the neighborhood I'm currently in, which is a lower-middle class one, things get a lot worse depending on where you are exactly.

Also, since this is Forest, I'm gonna mention that the reason why Recife floods so easily is partly because of how enviromentally screwed the whole city is, because the mangrove forests were almost completely destroyed and their soil basically buried under concrete. There's nowhere for the water to go so it's just stuck here. I say "almost" because the destruction is still ongoing, even though there are proven links between the deforestation of mangroves and the excessive (and deadly) yearly floods...

We also have a shark problem because of deforestation. Hurray.

I severely doubt the Brazilian government would care if destroying the mangroves hurt the city. Bolsonaro's thought process is that if there's a forest, it must be destroyed no matter what.

Atsvea, Ruinenlust, The Teeth, Middle Barael, and 4 othersHamyan, Garbelia, The most serene republicans, and The world wildlife fund

Kepler-0085

Bele Levy Epies wrote:I have seen foxes in the wild at least twice. (I live in Europe.)

Same, at my grandmas, they have chickens so....
RIP
I seen a fox there atleast five times

Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and 4 othersEast skirsburg, Garbelia, The most serene republicans, and The world wildlife fund

via Europe

Imperial kaiserreich germany

What do you call a fish wearing a bowtie? Sofishticated!

Felinetopia, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, and 9 othersNew latin locality, Myordas, Grimmjow J, Hamyan, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, Difinbelk, The most serene republicans, and The world wildlife fund

Hamyan

Imperial kaiserreich germany wrote:What do you call a fish wearing a bowtie? Sofishticated!

oh no! the dadjokes have come to the region, hide!

Shalotte, Einswenn, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, and 8 othersHoochlandia, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, Difinbelk, The most serene republicans, Imperial kaiserreich germany, and The world wildlife fund



The most serene republicans

Kyratistani wrote:Você é brasileiro?

Sim!

Nation of ecologists wrote:I severely doubt the Brazilian government would care if destroying the mangroves hurt the city. Bolsonaro's thought process is that if there's a forest, it must be destroyed no matter what.

He's not the one in control of that though, that's on the state government, which has been on the hands of corrupt politicians since like forever.

Also, update: the rain has stopped now, and so far 130 people had their homes destroyed. Two people have died, two people are missing but possibly still alive.

The Teeth wrote:✂️

That sounds amazing, except for the bear part, which sounds scary. The closest I've ever come to anything like that was back when I lived in Brasilia. I lived really close to a park/reserve, and going to/back from school meant getting almost inside it. I got to see some cute buddies sometimes like mud jacks (Rufous Hornero), capybaras, one great horned owl and one Manned Wolf, from afar, which was one of the most majestic things I've experienced. Also, manned wolf pee smells like weed. Just throwing that out there.

Hamyan wrote:oh no! the dadjokes have come to the region, hide!

Yeah, we gotta hide. If we ran instead we'd be exhausted, since we wouldn't have much time For Rest.

Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Uan aa Boa, and 9 othersHoochlandia, Simbolon, The Teeth, Middle Barael, Hamyan, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, Difinbelk, and The world wildlife fund



Nation of ecologists

The most serene republicans wrote:Sim!
He's not the one in control of that though, that's on the state government, which has been on the hands of corrupt politicians since like forever.

Also, update: the rain has stopped now, and so far 130 people had their homes destroyed. Two people have died, two people are missing but possibly still alive.

Ah, I always forget that Brazil is a federal state. Oh, btw since I know very little about Brazilian politics, though I'd like to know more, are there any specifically environmentalist and socialist parties there? I mean, sure by reading their wikipedia pages it seems like there are a good amount, but you never know. I mean, you always get non-Canadians tell me "I support the Liberals because their centre-left and support healthcare!" while in reality they would privatize healthcare in a split second if given the chance, and they are definitely not centre-left.

Edit: Holy sh*t, I just watched a documentary on just how unsustainable fishing is. It's called seaspiracy, it's on Netflix and it was extremely eye-opening. I can't even summarize how much it affected me in words, just watch it if you have the app. I don't even eat fish, and I feel so god damn guilty.

Edit 2: Lol. I forgot to censor sh*t and it stopped me from posting because it had a "naughty word".

Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Hoochlandia, The Teeth, and 4 othersMiddle Barael, Hamyan, The albanian-bosnian commonwealth, and The world wildlife fund

The Pacific Alpine Commonwealth of Mount Seymour

Nation of ecologists wrote:Edit: Holy sh*t, I just watched a documentary on just how unsustainable fishing is. It's called seaspiracy, it's on Netflix and it was extremely eye-opening. I can't even summarize how much it affected me in words, just watch it if you have the app. I don't even eat fish, and I feel so god damn guilty.

Here's a bit of a take on some of the issues with Seaspiracy that I thought was interesting: https://www.vox.com/2021/4/13/22380637/seaspiracy-netflix-fact-check-fishing-ocean-plastic-veganism-vegetarianism

Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Hoochlandia, Myordas, and 5 othersThe Teeth, Middle Barael, Hamyan, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia

Shalotte

Hamyan wrote:oh no! the dadjokes have come to the region, hide!

DESTROY THEM!

Atsvea, Hoochlandia, Middle Barael, Hamyan, and 3 othersGarbelia, The most serene republicans, and The world wildlife fund

The most serene republicans

Nation of ecologists wrote:Ah, I always forget that Brazil is a federal state. Oh, btw since I know very little about Brazilian politics, though I'd like to know more, are there any specifically environmentalist and socialist parties there? I mean, sure by reading their wikipedia pages it seems like there are a good amount, but you never know. I mean, you always get non-Canadians tell me "I support the Liberals because their centre-left and support healthcare!" while in reality they would privatize healthcare in a split second if given the chance, and they are definitely not centre-left.

Brazil has 33 registered political parties. Of these, 3 are openly enviromentalist, and some others have enviromentalist wings or whatever.

The first and obvious one is the Green Party. It's pretty much your typical green party, with center-left politics and a focus on enviromental regulation. They stick out a bit among the other parties in Brazil for being municipalists and heavily favoring direct democracy. Their 2010 presidential candidate was a lady called Marina Silva, a former communist born in Acre who, alongside Chico Mendes, led the big syndical-enviromental movements in northern Brazil. Keep her in mind, she's about to be very important.

PSOL (Party for Socialism and Freedom) is a sort of big-tent decentralized leftist party. It's internal currents work mostly independently of each other. The larger ones are social-democratic, there are several small revolutionary communist currents and a few big eco-socialist currents. I'd say PSOL sort of leads the radical enviromentalist part of Brazillian politics today.

"Sustainability Net", often called just "Rede" ("net"). Remember Marina Silva? After the worker's party won the presidential elections in 2002, she was invited to lead the enviromental ministry. She left some time later due to strong ideological disagreements with the worker's party's developementalist politics, (Lula's "better to have a cut forest than a child starving" screwed up the savannas and part of the amazon forests). She went on to run for president on basically every election since then, and she came really close to winning in 2014 (I would give you the short explanation of those elections but even a short explanation would have several paragraphs), but lost partly due to the worker's party's honestly gross campaign against her.

Afterwards, she used that political momentum to form Rede, a sort of greener green party. Several important politicians from the center-left joined the party shortly after. They elected the first indigenous congresswoman (coincidentally also the first indigenous woman to be a lawyer) and are very present in pacifist and enviromentalist movements. The party has since then drifted more and more towards the center.

The green party and especially Rede have a somewhat big presence in the North region, so if you're looking to include some actual parties from Brazil in NoE, these two would be good choices.

Verdant Haven, Kyratistani, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, and 12 othersUan aa Boa, Hoochlandia, Terrabod, New ladavia, The Teeth, Middle Barael, Hamyan, Nation of ecologists, East skirsburg, Garbelia, Difinbelk, and The world wildlife fund

Myordas

Mount Seymour wrote:Here's a bit of a take on some of the issues with Seaspiracy that I thought was interesting: https://www.vox.com/2021/4/13/22380637/seaspiracy-netflix-fact-check-fishing-ocean-plastic-veganism-vegetarianism

I don't like those vegan films tho, they have only one point of view and that's themselves. That's why I have stigma on veganism, I don't know why they have one point of view but I think they want world superiority. Any reasons why?

Atsvea, Hoochlandia, The Teeth, Middle Barael, and 4 othersHamyan, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, and The world wildlife fund

The Kingdom of Kyratistani

As a Canadian with a stark interest in Brasil, the above conversations are fun.

The most serene republicans wrote:Brazil has 33 registered political parties. Of these, 3 are openly enviromentalist, and some others have enviromentalist wings or whatever.

The first and obvious one is the Green Party. It's pretty much your typical green party, with center-left politics and a focus on enviromental regulation. They stick out a bit among the other parties in Brazil for being municipalists and heavily favoring direct democracy. Their 2010 presidential candidate was a lady called Marina Silva, a former communist born in Acre who, alongside Chico Mendes, led the big syndical-enviromental movements in northern Brazil. Keep her in mind, she's about to be very important.

PSOL (Party for Socialism and Freedom) is a sort of big-tent decentralized leftist party. It's internal currents work mostly independently of each other. The larger ones are social-democratic, there are several small revolutionary communist currents and a few big eco-socialist currents. I'd say PSOL sort of leads the radical enviromentalist part of Brazillian politics today.

"Sustainability Net", often called just "Rede" ("net"). Remember Marina Silva? After the worker's party won the presidential elections in 2002, she was invited to lead the enviromental ministry. She left some time later due to strong ideological disagreements with the worker's party's developementalist politics, (Lula's "better to have a cut forest than a child starving" screwed up the savannas and part of the amazon forests). She went on to run for president on basically every election since then, and she came really close to winning in 2014 (I would give you the short explanation of those elections but even a short explanation would have several paragraphs), but lost partly due to the worker's party's honestly gross campaign against her.

Afterwards, she used that political momentum to form Rede, a sort of greener green party. Several important politicians from the center-left joined the party shortly after. They elected the first indigenous congresswoman (coincidentally also the first indigenous woman to be a lawyer) and are very present in pacifist and enviromentalist movements. The party has since then drifted more and more towards the center.

The green party and especially Rede have a somewhat big presence in the North region, so if you're looking to include some actual parties from Brazil in NoE, these two would be good choices.

Here in Canada I find Marina Silva is like Annamie Paul.

Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Hoochlandia, Middle Barael, and 5 othersHamyan, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, Difinbelk, and The most serene republicans

The Mysterious Black Hole of Roless

After 2 and 1/3 years +1 day of playing, i have reached exactly 5 billion population.

Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Hoochlandia, Terrabod, and 5 othersSimbolon, Middle Barael, Hamyan, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia

Simbolon

Well, I left for three days and the first thing I did coming back was picking option 1 from Issue 490..
RIP some progress I guess...

Einswenn, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Hoochlandia, and 4 othersMiddle Barael, Hamyan, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia

The Rriknor of Einswenn

Simbolon wrote:Well, I left for three days and the first thing I did coming back was picking option 1 from Issue 490..
RIP some progress I guess...

I did the same thing just recently and am still suffering from nightmares because of such loss. Lots of truly high level indexes got lost, black market rose by thousands of percents (+43 000% to be precise), youth rebelliousness +200%, weaponisation +20%, eco-friendliness -40%, safety -50%, and many more fields got mercilessly cut off. The only positive impact was on employment which rose by 54% and income tax reduced by 30%. “Fantastic” at the very least.

Kyratistani, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Hoochlandia, and 4 othersThe Teeth, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and Garbelia



The Federative Republic of Atsvea

My biggest pain was watching average income drop from 259,000 to 257,000 and output from 2,570,000,000,000,000 to 2,550,000,000,000,000. Guess that's not comparable.

Einswenn, Kyratistani, Ruinenlust, Hoochlandia, and 4 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, and Difinbelk

The Rriknor of Einswenn

Atsvea wrote:My biggest pain was watching average income drop from 259,000 to 257,000 and output from 2,570,000,000,000,000 to 2,550,000,000,000,000. Guess that's not comparable

To be fair my average income didn’t get affected much, but average disposable income rose by +465%. I guess that’s good? However, why would my citizens need so much of ”free money” to spend it on what the state has been already offering before the crisis issue decision. Free high quality healthcare, free public transportation, incredible welfare and so on and so forth.

Yeah, that’s one of the trickiest issue on NS

Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Hoochlandia, Middle Barael, and 3 othersNation of ecologists, Garbelia, and Difinbelk

Nation of ecologists

The most serene republicans wrote:snip

Thanks! I was always intrigued by Silva's political legacy, so it was interesting to see where she is today! (not in a very good place mind you). However, how did she go from 19 million votes in 2014 to just 1 million in 2018? What did she do in those 4 years to slash her popularity?

I've also always been interested in PSOL, but I didn't want to immediately go and support them because Brazilian politics is quite complicated.

And on you saying I should have some of those parties as parties in NoE, I do! The Brazilian Green Party morphed into the Green Party, and Sustainability Network morphed into the Green-Liberal Party. They still operate in regular Brazil, (which has devolved into a dictatorship under Bolsonaro, similar to the Vargas Regime. Sorry, but the universe couldn't be all that good!) but are under strict watch from the electoral commission. PSOL's operations entirely moved to NoE fleeing persecution from Brazil, and changed their name to the Green-Socialist Party, which is currently in government. There's some lore that I literally just came up with!

The Equatorial Forests of Uan aa Boa

You guys have to be literally kidding me! #490 is my absolute favourite issue and I always pick that option then double down on it in the follow-up.

If I can blow my own trumpet a little bit here, I'm in Forest's top 10 for environmental beauty with an income tax rate of 30.2%. The next lowest income tax rate out of those 10 nations is 97.2%. I'm convinced that repeated use of that issue is why. Basically NS is a bit of a crap simulator and it allows governments to spend unlimited resources without any negative consequences. #490 might have spiked your rebelliousness and black market, but not to anything like the extent that 97% taxation would in real life.

When I get that issue now I find that it produces a huge drop in public healthcare along with a small, recoverable one in health. Ditto for public education/intelligence and eco-friendliness/environmental beauty. Government spending falls but it makes little practical difference. I think of this as periodically clearing out all the pointless initiatives governments adopt so as to be seen to be doing something even though they obviously won't work. You know the type of thing - rising crime rates prompt mobile youth theatre workshops, obesity prompts some nonsense where restaurants have to traffic light their menus based on fat content, some quango is created to write a report on the issues of the day that will then be ignored.
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In other news, on the southside of Glasgow officials from the UK Home Office arrived to forcibly remove 2 illegal immigrants. The entire neighbourhood and more came out into the street and prevented the van they were put into from leaving. After a long standoff the police (who do not assist the Home Office in removals) ordered that the immigrants be released because of public safety concerns and the Covid risk of having such a large crowd. Commentary is starkly divided. Mob rule or democracy in action?

Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Simbolon, and 5 othersThe Teeth, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, and Difinbelk



The Rewilding of Ruinenlust

Issue 490 is one that I also have mixed feelings about, but I keep choosing option 1, which sort of acts as a "reset" or a corrective for how I tend to otherwise answer issues. Granted many things are affected only slightly or not at all, but other things show very clearly each instance of getting Issue 490, and the fact that each time, I answer with option 1 and then dismiss the follow-up issue:

Disposable Income: nation=ruinenlust/detail=trend?censusid=85

Government Size: nation=ruinenlust/detail=trend?censusid=27

Edumacation: nation=ruinenlust/detail=trend?censusid=75

Taxation: nation=ruinenlust/detail=trend?censusid=49

I wish that it were more nuanced, where you could pick certain sectors to gut and others to retain. I'd love to keep the Education and Health Care, as well as the environmental programs, but let the other things fall down a bit.

And as always, the bane of my existence: Civil Rights, which is always on the verge of collapse despite my constant, frustrated efforts to raise it: nation=ruinenlust/detail=trend?censusid=0

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Edit:

Uan aa Boa wrote:You guys have to be literally kidding me! #490 is my absolute favourite issue and I always pick that option then double down on it in the follow-up.

I think of this as periodically clearing out all the pointless initiatives governments adopt so as to be seen to be doing something even though they obviously won't work.

Exactly my feeling! Hear, hear! :-)

Atsvea, Uan aa Boa, Terrabod, Middle Barael, and 5 othersHamyan, Nation of ecologists, Garbelia, Difinbelk, and The world wildlife fund



Simbolon

It just hurts realising your healthcare dropped 50%. Gotta earn those badges, ya know?

Uan aa Boa wrote:I always pick that option then double down on it in the follow-up.

So this means, if I'm not mistaken, choice 2 in #370?

Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, and 2 othersGarbelia, and The world wildlife fund

The Equatorial Forests of Uan aa Boa

Simbolon wrote:So this means, if I'm not mistaken, choice 2 in #370?

That's the one. The only downside is that on a couple of occasions the boost that answer gives to economic freedom has turned me into an Inoffensive Centrist Democracy and I've had to do something tyrannical at the first opportunity in order to rectify that.

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