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The Mysterious Black Hole of Roless

Northern Wood wrote:I believe there has been a slight mix-up regarding our embassy with Texas. I've been working as the ambassador there, but when I went to post this month's awareness report yesterday, I noticed another ambassador from here had already posted it: Toa moa. My resident embassy nation there is Steppe

I have no problem at all if you'd like to replace me with another. Just let me know, so I can stop following their board. Cheers

Toa moa is my puppet, however I didn’t know someone was already there, It was just recommended to me by Middle Barael when i became an ambassador.

Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 4 othersTurbeaux, Middle Barael, Kevan brighting, and Terhmentor

Terhmentor
The ρσɳყ ɱσɳα૨૮ɦყ of Gorthias

Woke up this morning to end up finding out that i got a Achievement of Misty Morning: Protect the Forests. Huh. Cool.

The Most Serene Eco-Republic of Middle Barael

Northern Wood wrote:I believe there has been a slight mix-up regarding our embassy with Texas. I've been working as the ambassador there, but when I went to post this month's awareness report yesterday, I noticed another ambassador from here had already posted it: Toa moa. My resident embassy nation there is Steppe

I have no problem at all if you'd like to replace me with another. Just let me know, so I can stop following their board. Cheers

I am sorry about that. I do not believe you were on the list of current ambassadors that VH gave me (correct me if I'm wrong), and whatever the case, Ruinenlust suggested it to me as a nice, medium-sized nation without much RP, which fitted with Roless. Northern Wood, you are still the ambassador. Roless, I will follow up with you promptly about a new embassy destination for you.

The Taiga Folk of Northern Wood

Middle Barael wrote:I am sorry about that. I do not believe you were on the list of current ambassadors that VH gave me (correct me if I'm wrong)

Not a big deal, don't worry about it.

I sent you a telegram when you asked for ambassadors of the region to identify themselves to you. And I don't know what list you have, but I was listed on this rather outdated dispatch.

Also, if I may make an informed observation, those environmental agenda reports have not been being well-received in Texas. I recommend they either not be posted there, or else someone more qualified than I be assigned to the region in order to defend their validity. Although I care deeply about nature, I often lack the knowledge to expand on the arguments within, and the effect can be a somewhat bad look, as in the most recent case.

The Total Solar Eclipse of Ruinenlust

Northern Wood wrote:Also, if I may make an informed observation, those environmental agenda reports have not been being well-received in Texas. I recommend they either not be posted there, or else someone more qualified than I be assigned to the region in order to defend their validity. Although I care deeply about nature, I often lack the knowledge to expand on the arguments within, and the effect can be a somewhat bad look, as in the most recent case.

Ahh, that is a good thing to be aware of. Perhaps we should not post those things in Texas anymore? I know that I have sometimes found random posts of things from other regions to be noise at best, depending on what it is, so it's conceivable that they simply don't want those things. ^Not that my opinion is informed at all. I've never been to Texas, and I don't know anything about the region.

Middle Barael, perhaps that's something worth having annotations for. Texas is probably not the only region that would prefer not to have such communications, and if an embassy is striking people as annoying, that kinda defeats the purpose, in a way.



The Most Serene Eco-Republic of Middle Barael

Ruinenlust wrote:Ahh, that is a good thing to be aware of. Perhaps we should not post those things in Texas anymore? I know that I have sometimes found random posts of things from other regions to be noise at best, depending on what it is, so it's conceivable that they simply don't want those things. ^Not that my opinion is informed at all. I've never been to Texas, and I don't know anything about the region.

Middle Barael, perhaps that's something worth having annotations for. Texas is probably not the only region that would prefer not to have such communications, and if an embassy is striking people as annoying, that kinda defeats the purpose, in a way.

Agreed. I will sort out all of those mistakes by the end of the day, if I have time. And just a thought, but I'm guessing that part of the reason why our environmental agenda reports are not being well-received is due to Texas's trend towards conservatism, so perhaps before sending out climate change related things we should consider the ideological trends in certain regions.

Edit: Happy Quadrennial, Ruinenlust

The Pacific Alpine Commonwealth of Mount Seymour

Middle Barael wrote:Agreed. I will sort out all of those mistakes by the end of the day, if I have time. And just a thought, but I'm guessing that part of the reason why our environmental agenda reports are not being well-received is due to Texas's trend towards conservatism, so perhaps before sending out climate change related things we should consider the ideological trends in certain regions.

Perhaps, though, a region with residents averse to thinking about climate change is exactly where we most need to be engaging in a debate about it?

It looks to me -- at least in the most recent case -- that there was one individual pushing back on the content, saying that it's not worth caring about e-waste. If it's the content that generates an issue, rather than that the update itself is annoying, then don't think the solution is just to stop posting. There's no dedication in writing an environmental agenda for the (at least aspirationally) converted but dropping it out of "courtesy" precisely when it generates discussion. Instead, I agree with Northern Wood that ideally an ambassador to somewhere with more resistance should be well-versed in the content, so that they can engage in respectful and persuasive discussion on it.

The Most Serene Eco-Republic of Middle Barael

Mount Seymour wrote:Perhaps, though, a region with residents averse to thinking about climate change is exactly where we most need to be engaging in a debate about it?

It looks to me -- at least in the most recent case -- that there was one individual pushing back on the content, saying that it's not worth caring about e-waste. If it's the content that generates an issue, rather than that the update itself is annoying, then don't think the solution is just to stop posting. There's no dedication in writing an environmental agenda for the (at least aspirationally) converted but dropping it out of "courtesy" precisely when it generates discussion. Instead, I agree with Northern Wood that ideally an ambassador to somewhere with more resistance should be well-versed in the content, so that they can engage in respectful and persuasive discussion on it.

Good point. Perhaps, if VH and Ruinenlust allow it, we could create a new mini-position/assignment to help ambassadors whenver a debate comes up? That way everyone could keep their ambassadorships, yet if they aren't a great debater, they could get some help. I can do this, or someone else can if they want to

The Total Solar Eclipse of Ruinenlust

Middle Barael wrote:Good point. Perhaps, if VH and Ruinenlust allow it, we could create a new mini-position/assignment to help ambassadors whenver a debate comes up? That way everyone could keep their ambassadorships, yet if they aren't a great debater, they could get some help. I can do this, or someone else can if they want to

*bestows ten-pound, gem encrusted golden scepter of ambassadorial power and of big-stick diplomacy*

That's all you, bud. :-)

Middle Barael wrote:Happy Quadrennial, Ruinenlust

Thank you! It's been a great time so far, I am happy to say!



Areulder

Mount Seymour wrote:Perhaps, though, a region with residents averse to thinking about climate change is exactly where we most need to be engaging in a debate about it?

Thank you. If forest wants to champion environmental issues it's not conductive to limit ourselves to regions where nearly everyone agrees on them.

On a totally unrelated note: I was thinking about forest's photo contest today, and I think after this years is over it would be good to vote for the next year themes. That way people would have a whole year to find something to submit instead of not knowing what the theme is until shortly before the event and relying on what they happen to have, or hoping it's something they can photograph at that time of year.

also yes I am alive c:

The Pacific Alpine Commonwealth of Mount Seymour

Areulder wrote:Thank you. If forest wants to champion environmental issues it's not conductive to limit ourselves to regions where nearly everyone agrees on them.

On a totally unrelated note: I was thinking about forest's photo contest today, and I think after this years is over it would be good to vote for the next year themes. That way people would have a whole year to find something to submit instead of not knowing what the theme is until shortly before the event and relying on what they happen to have, or hoping it's something they can photograph at that time of year.

also yes I am alive c:

Ooh, good idea! Perhaps we can solicit ideas during the contest, and then add a question asking about themes for the next year into the voting form. I'll have to keep that in mind for November.

Octopus islands, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 4 othersTurbeaux, The void territories, Northern Wood, and Middle Barael

The Taiga Folk of Northern Wood

Mount Seymour wrote:It looks to me -- at least in the most recent case -- that there was one individual pushing back on the content, saying that it's not worth caring about e-waste. If it's the content that generates an issue, rather than that the update itself is annoying, then don't think the solution is just to stop posting. There's no dedication in writing an environmental agenda for the (at least aspirationally) converted but dropping it out of "courtesy" precisely when it generates discussion. Instead, I agree with Northern Wood that ideally an ambassador to somewhere with more resistance should be well-versed in the content, so that they can engage in respectful and persuasive discussion on it.

The opposition is never to the fact of an update being posted (they receive three or four a month, and always graciously) but to the content. And always the same two or three vocal opponents, but they are extremely vocal, among the most in the region.

I agree, the best solution would be for a more knowledgeable ambassador to be assigned the region. Or perhaps Middle Barael's interesting notion of a sort of "adjunct"...although, there's something about that which feels non-ideal, though I struggle to put into words exactly what. Perhaps overly-officious? Or too impersonal? Not sure...

And, lest folks come away from this whole discussion with a poor opinion of Texas, let me just assure that such political discussions are merely one part of what the region is about. They also talk a lot about "Star Trek" and various other science fiction franchises. They discuss sports and books they are reading, play trivia games and their own Bingo-homebrew, show sympathy to one another whenever real-world struggles are mentioned. They share Saturday Breakfasts and Sunday Brunches (with descriptions that often leave me hungry). And family plays a role, too, as a father and two sons reside there with one another.

via The South Pacific

Kraljevstvo rata

Well, considering Forest is environmentally themed, why don't we go for a question of the day? What's your favorite tree species, and why? Bonus: Is that species endangered?



The Pacific Alpine Commonwealth of Mount Seymour

Northern Wood wrote:I agree, the best solution would be for a more knowledgeable ambassador to be assigned the region. Or perhaps Middle Barael's interesting notion of a sort of "adjunct"...although, there's something about that which feels non-ideal, though I struggle to put into words exactly what. Perhaps overly-officious? Or too impersonal? Not sure...

Agreed. The more contentious a topic of discussion with an embassy region is, the more sensitive and perceptive the person on our end has to be, and the more they have to be absolutely looking like they're engaging in good faith. I think a well-established ambassador who the embassy region's residents recognize as a familiar face will fulfill more of those qualities than a special Forest officer who seems to fly into a region just to argue a point (n.b.: obviously that's not what you mean to have happen in your suggestion, MB, I just worry it could come across that way).

Perhaps the solution is just a slight shuffling of ambassadorships whenever we want someone who feels confident in their environmental knowledge in a certain position. After all, it's not like we don't try to fit ambassadors to the right regions anyway -- isn't this just a case of an embassy region having an additional quality to fit the appropriate ambassador to?

The Nation of Atsvea

Ruinenlust wrote:snip

Well, seeing as I live in China, I'm inclined to say that it's all hogwash o.0. We're doing very well.
However, that is what pretty much all of what the media reports and the only things people hear. They say similar things on other countries such as India as well, so I'm not particularly perturbed. But the truth of what's actually happening on the ground is very different from what they report, especially after Trump and COVID-19.

For the explosion in Beirut, apparently one yet to be fully confirmed theory is on September 23, 2013, a cargo ship named MV Rhosus was sailing from Georgia all the way to Mozambique, carrying 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate, but faced technical problems after entering the Mediterranean and had to dock at Beirut. When it was inspected the ammonium nitrate was discovered and many lawsuits were filed against it for lethal hazard posed by the chemicals. According to a report published in The Arrest News, on October 15, 2013 it was forbidden to sail.

When all efforts to free the ship failed, the crew hired a Lebanese law firm to make a case for leaving. In 2015 the ammonium was unloaded and stored in the port of Beirut. Apparently the authorities had planned to resell the substance in an auction later, but for unknown reasons they suddenly decided to keep inside the port instead, in spite of reports of it's highly explosive nature.

"The result? For five years, an ammonium nitrate bomb – with highly explosive materials capable of polluting and destroying an entire area, threatening to kill countless innocent lives – has been practically lying dormant in our harbor, before suddenly exploding, forming the mushroom-like clouds (similar to the ones formed by nuclear tests), and launching its killing spree… As if Lebanon didn’t suffer enough: first, the Covid-19 pandemic; second, the economic, environmental and political crisis that has been storming my country for decades; and now, this?!!!… And what’s worse: the local politicians – many of whom are extremely corrupt, merely focusing on their own interests and access to power, with no concern whatsoever for the Lebanese people – knew about it and did nothing!"

The answer from a local here: https://www.quora.com/Why-werent-locals-in-Beirut-warned-about-a-possible-explosion/answer/Serge-Elia

Kraljevstvo rata wrote:Well, considering Forest is environmentally themed, why don't we go for a question of the day? What's your favorite tree species, and why? Bonus: Is that species endangered?

I like paperbark trees, Melaleuca quinquenervia, because that's what's planted on a nearby street. It's native to eastern Australia, New Caledonia, and Papua New Guinea, which is probably why it stands out so much.

"Melaleuca quinquenervia resprouts vigorously from epicormic shoots after bushfire, and has been recorded flowering within weeks of being burnt. Trees can live for over 100 years, with 40-year-old trees achieving a trunk circumference of 2.7 m (9 ft) in cultivation."

"The paper-like bark is used traditionally for making coolamons, shelter, wrapping baked food and lining ground ovens. The nectar is extracted traditionally by washing in coolamons of water which is subsequently consumed as a beverage. The scented flower also produces a light to dark amber honey depending on the district. It is strongly flavoured and candies readily and is not regarded as a high quality honey, but nevertheless is popular."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melaleuca_quinquenervia#/media/File:Melaleuca_quinquenervia_2.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melaleuca_quinquenervia#/media/File:(85)_Paperbark.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melaleuca_quinquenervia#/media/File:Melaleuca_quinquenervia.jpg

As for being endangered, it's considered a noxious weed by the United States Department of Agriculture.



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Kraljevstvo rata

Atsvea wrote:re:trees.

Interesting. I have lots of favorite trees, but I'd say my favorite species is the Carya glabra tree, or Pignut Hickory. It's renowned for its flexibility and strength, as well as infamous for its near impossibility of turning on a lathe. Red oak and Alder are other great trees, due to their strength (oak) and abundance (alder)

South bees

Does the delegate (Ransium) vote according to the region or their personal preference?

The Rustling Leaves of New Kvenland

Kraljevstvo rata wrote:Well, considering Forest is environmentally themed, why don't we go for a question of the day? What's your favorite tree species, and why? Bonus: Is that species endangered?

Tough to pick, but I'm gonna say the Monterey cypress! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupressus_macrocarpa

Gorgeous, almost bonsai-looking cypress species from near my hometown, currently relegated to two tiny populations. Part of why I love them is for their habitats, stretches of the coast of Big Sur bathed in a constant fog, always cool and serene. Nowhere in the world like it, and wouldn't have the same effect without the cypress. Only vulnerable, not endangered yet, but it still needs to be protected. (cultivated worldwide, too, but it ain't the same :P)

Fun fact: there's a famous one called the Lone Cypress on a granite outcropping right on the ocean: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/16_21_0302_lone_cypress.jpg

Called the most photographed tree in the world, and for good reason. It was badly damaged in a storm a few months ago, lost a huge branch, but it should be okay.

via The South Pacific

Kraljevstvo rata

New Kvenland wrote:Tough to pick, but I'm gonna say the Monterey cypress! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupressus_macrocarpa

Gorgeous, almost bonsai-looking cypress species from near my hometown, currently relegated to two tiny populations. Part of why I love them is for their habitats, stretches of the coast of Big Sur bathed in a constant fog, always cool and serene. Nowhere in the world like it, and wouldn't have the same effect without the cypress. Only vulnerable, not endangered yet, but it still needs to be protected. (cultivated worldwide, too, but it ain't the same :P)

Fun fact: there's a famous one called the Lone Cypress on a granite outcropping right on the ocean: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/16_21_0302_lone_cypress.jpg

Called the most photographed tree in the world, and for good reason. It was badly damaged in a storm a few months ago, lost a huge branch, but it should be okay.

Absolutely wonderful.

The Sylvan Hivə of Turbeaux

Kraljevstvo rata wrote:Well, considering Forest is environmentally themed, why don't we go for a question of the day? What's your favorite tree species, and why? Bonus: Is that species endangered?

If I have to pick just one, I would go for Pinus engelmannii. It has the longest leaves of any pine and often goes through a "grass phase" in it's youth. It is not currently endangered but it exclusively grows on Madrean "sky islands" so I am pretty sure that climate change could seriously threaten it. Details here:

https://www.conifers.org/pi/Pinus_engelmannii.php

Shalotte, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, and 3 othersLord Dominator, Kraljevstvo rata, and Middle Barael

Shalotte

Turbeaux wrote:If I have to pick just one, I would go for Pinus engelmannii.

* Shalotte giggles childishly.

Orang-utang

Kraljevstvo rata wrote:Well, considering Forest is environmentally themed, why don't we go for a question of the day? What's your favorite tree species, and why? Bonus: Is that species endangered?

Naturally, as an orang-utang🦧 I would have to pick the Durian Fruit tree (Durio zibethinus) - It produces our favourite fruit...

Murmuria, Octopus islands, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, and 7 othersRuinenlust, Lord Dominator, Kraljevstvo rata, Turbeaux, Northern Wood, Middle Barael, and South bees

The Total Solar Eclipse of Ruinenlust

Kraljevstvo rata wrote:Well, considering Forest is environmentally themed, why don't we go for a question of the day? What's your favorite tree species, and why? Bonus: Is that species endangered?

I love questions like these!

Mine would ultimately have to be the Canadian/Eastern Hemlock, Tsuga canadensis. The effect of about one inch of fresh, sticky snow on a healthy Hemlock tree is amazing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuga_canadensis

Picking just a single species is absolutely terrible, though, because there are many others that I love just as enthusiastically, in the end.

The Tsardom of Lura

Kraljevstvo rata wrote:Well, considering Forest is environmentally themed, why don't we go for a question of the day? What's your favorite tree species, and why? Bonus: Is that species endangered?

My favourite would have to be the blue jacaranda, Jacaranda mimosifolia, because of their purple flowers that totally cover the tree in blooming season. They are native to South America and classified as 'vulnerable', but here in Australia, among other places, it is invasive. Even still, seeing streets lined with these trees when it is blooming is quite a nice sight, and probably the reason they were planted all over the world.

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