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The Elevated People's State of Tuvinya

Kyievska Rus wrote:

1. Anal sex is not only practiced in homosexual sex, something that would be good to highlight since it is often used as a vague argument, why homosexual marriage should not be legalized. You also have to know that rights should not be measured by not having diseases or being prone to suffering them; if this were the case, killing the unborn should be a right for the simple fact that they could suffer from the flu.
2. It is legalizing gay marriage, not the LGBT community. That community is rotten because it has become political and not social, as it was before. Currently they are used by the left for their own ends, something that rot the movement. I do not support the movement and you have to differentiate very well between being gay and being part of the Community; Being gay does not make you part of the community, that is, people decide.

I'd say it's the opposite meaning that the lgbt political community has been using the left for their own goals, further emptying left wing orgs of their original values until nothing remained but their own policies.
You can easily verify this by comparing propoposals by the founders of the lgbt political movement from the 60s and by contemporary leftist movements, which are identical.

The Constitutional Kingdom of Asturgien

Socialist Platypus wrote:That's all well and good (not trying to fact check what you sent because I don't have the time but I'm sure some of those stuff are either false or due to how the homosexual community has been treated)
But all of that doesn't matter in the face of the fact that you do not choose to be homosexual you are born homosexual.
It's the same as saying "You have red hairs that should be a crime, you know that red headed people are statistically more likely to.. '" in worse since you can color your hair but you can' t change who you are attracted to.

being gay is a choice, even a gay admitted it https://web.archive.org/web/20191017131227/https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160627-i-am-gay-but-i-wasnt-born-this-way

The Puddle of Socialist Platypus

Asturgien wrote:being gay is a choice, even a gay admitted it https://web.archive.org/web/20191017131227/https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160627-i-am-gay-but-i-wasnt-born-this-way

That's not a proof. Many research have been done on the subject even among animals, being gay is not a choice and is something natural. One person's saying isn't by any mean even close to being as relevant as the many studies done on the subject.

The Glorious domain of Greater Thuni

my good friends The Capitalist China Party Daraln Avrav does this break into our list of the top 10 most unpopular opinions in the Conch Kingdom?

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The Holy Empire of Cool Man Babs

Greater Thuni wrote:my good friends The Capitalist China Party Daraln Avrav does this break into our list of the top 10 most unpopular opinions in the Conch Kingdom?

As one of the admins, Iíll say my own opinion. It absolutely does.

The Kingdom of Nova Briton

Asturgien wrote:being gay is a choice, even a gay admitted it https://web.archive.org/web/20191017131227/https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160627-i-am-gay-but-i-wasnt-born-this-way

Anecdotal evidence + your sexuality is your own personal experience. Just because somebody exclusively dated men but then fell in love with a woman does not make them "choosing" to be gay, it literally just means that they were attracted to men and A Woman. What that means is up to them but one story isn't enough to disprove it being an innate trait.



The Pancake Mistress of Daraln

Tuvinya wrote: Snip

I mean the left obviously has no economic policy, welfare policies or whatever so you must be kinda right!

Asturgien wrote: snip 2 but more dumb

Can you do your research please before typing in an argument? That'd be appreciated. Tyvm.

Greater Thuni wrote:my good friends The Capitalist China Party Daraln Avrav does this break into our list of the top 10 most unpopular opinions in the Conch Kingdom?

And yes it does, has to be a top 4 at least.

I just doubleposted omg

Post self-deleted by Daraln.

The Puddle of Socialist Platypus

Asturgien wrote:being gay is a choice, even a gay admitted it https://web.archive.org/web/20191017131227/https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160627-i-am-gay-but-i-wasnt-born-this-way

I started taking a look at the article, have you even read the article you are sharing? Or are you just reading what interest you? The article does absolutely not say, one can simply change their sexual orientation out of will and explicitely say that you shouldn't try to do any sort of conversion therapy.
You can't just take an article, take what you lack out of it and then throw the rest away because it doesn't go along with your way of thinking.



The Glorious domain of Greater Thuni

Socialist Platypus wrote:I started taking a look at the article, have you even read the article you are sharing? Or are you just reading what interest you? The article does absolutely not say, one can simply change their sexual orientation out of will and explicitely say that you shouldn't try to do any sort of conversion therapy.
You can't just take an article, take what you lack out of it and then throw the rest away because it doesn't go along with your way of thinking.

You didn't have to catch them in 8K ultra HD like that. Come on, that's dirty!

The Constitutional Kingdom of Asturgien

Socialist Platypus wrote:That's not a proof. Many research have been done on the subject even among animals, being gay is not a choice and is something natural. One person's saying isn't by any mean even close to being as relevant as the many studies done on the subject.

the fact that is natural has been disproved https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4771012/

The Rogue Nation of Extreme Choas

fascinating argument!

The Glorious domain of Greater Thuni

Asturgien wrote:the fact that is natural has been disproved https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4771012/

Hey Socialist Platypus Can you give me the TL;DR of this? I'm ready to swing at our G now.

The Puddle of Socialist Platypus

Asturgien wrote:the fact that is natural has been disproved https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4771012/

In that case I have a simple question, why can do we find homosexuality in nature among many other animal species than just humans if it's not natural?

The Kingdom of Nova Briton

Asturgien wrote:the fact that is natural has been disproved https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4771012/

A source from a catholic source? As in, the catholicism that sees homosexuality as a sin and promotes horrifically traumatising "therapy" on young teens? That catholicism?

The Constitutional Kingdom of Asturgien

Socialist Platypus wrote:In that case I have a simple question, why can do we find homosexuality in nature among many other animal species than just humans if it's not natural?

because anomalies also exist



The Glorious domain of Greater Thuni

Socialist Platypus wrote:In that case I have a simple question, why can do we find homosexuality in nature among many other animal species than just humans if it's not natural?

Ay Asturgien If you wanna try and disprove this, both Koalas and species of reptile exhibit the behavior SP is referring to. It isn't fake.

Oh and just as I was typing you finna talk about anomalies. Well my friend, if being gay isn't an anomaly in humans, why would you call it an anomaly in other species? That is called confirmation bias bud.

The Constitutional Kingdom of Asturgien

Nova Briton wrote:A source from a catholic source? As in, the catholicism that sees homosexuality as a sin and promotes horrifically traumatising "therapy" on young teens? That catholicism?

I'm not even catholic, I'm pagan. I have no religious interest behind my opinion



The Kingdom of Nova Briton

Asturgien wrote:because anomalies also exist

Imagine misunderstanding statistics that badly that you accidentally start advocating for eugenics

Asturgien wrote:I'm not even catholic, I'm pagan. I have no religious interest behind my opinion

Your personal religious beliefs have no bearing on your use of a biased source

The Glorious domain of Greater Thuni

Nova Briton wrote:Imagine misunderstanding statistics that badly that you accidentally start advocating for eugenics

Yeah I talked about it too read up.



The Elevated People's State of Tuvinya

Daraln wrote:
I mean the left obviously has no economic policy, welfare policies or whatever so you must be kinda right! 



Can you do your research please before typing in an argument? That'd be appreciated. Tyvm.


And yes it does, has to be a top 4 at least.

I just doubleposted omg

Ah yes, the economic policies of the left that are more laissez-faire than those of the nationalist parties.
Not to mention workers' control, not even conceivable for them since, according to the left, workers are lobotomized racists to be taxed to fund reparations for the oppressed living in mansions and then to be put down.

The Kingdom of Nova Briton

Tuvinya wrote:Ah yes, the economic policies of the left that are more laissez-faire than those of the nationalist parties.
Not to mention workers' control, not even conceivable for them since, according to the left, workers are lobotomized racists to be taxed to fund repairations for the oppressed living in mansions and then to be put down.

Me when I watch PragerU (also, please interact with leftists that aren't american twitter users)

The Constitutional Kingdom of Asturgien

Thanks for starting the poll

The Kingdom of Locotima

Are there really homophobes in 2021? Pathetic

The Constitutional Kingdom of Asturgien

Locotima wrote:Are there really homophobes in 2021? Pathetic

mentioning what year it is makes no sense, I don't understand why pro-lgbt do that

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