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Oire wrote:


So anyone questioning the establishment narrative on the uber flu is now linked to the Devil? 
Thanks for that.

No Brother, you have the right and the duty to doubt it, don't get me wrong.

The problem is when people to support our president says that China put nanobots on the vaccine or that the vaccine was made for populational control to kill us cause genetic mutations that cause sterility and etc.

When people said this knowing that is a lie just to protect political idols or ideological agendas, yes, these people must be exposed for the good of all.

One thing is to question the vaccine with reasonable data really caring about the good of people, I know this is what you do Oire, I dissent but there is no problem with it, you are fighting for truth and I respect that. You are not lying to protect anybody, be it the establishment, like people are doing in Brazil and other countries, or the anti-establishment, like I see people doing in USA.

There is legitimate questioning of the vaccine, like yours, and there is illegitimate questioning of vaccine, that is not done because there is a true concern about vaccination, lime you do, but because the vaccine may affect the politics and politicians they behave, they spread misinformation not concern like you, and this is evil.

Relax Oire, I respect you Brother.

DEUS VULT!!

Eternal rest prayers would be appreciated, one of my Granduncles passed away.

I was watching some videos on Tik Tok (that unless filtered is stupid at best, and probably is a foreign power spy software).

I saw people saying that USA is an evil empire.

I saw people saying that USSR won the WW2 and USA did nothing.

I saw people saying that socialism is better for USA.

All of them were American history teachers.

Ok I know USA is not a nice eagleland, but the level of hate that I see from the teachers about his own country, to the point of openly praising USSR and Vietnam, only exposing the evil side of USA is something that even my communist history teachers don't have, what happened to your teachers americans?

Socialism is on full rise on USA, I see proud militants saying they will burn churches and they were not the modern progressive type, they are openly marxist.

They made even the Democratic Party of USA looking like libertarian right-wingers.

What happened to USA? They won the Cold War just do became the new USSR? The United Soviets of America?

I don't saw this on the humanities section of the universities that I studied, and the history students here openly supports communism, Cuba and Venezuela, they are openly anti-american, liked 9/11 and hates USA because they helped our dictatorship on the Cold War (they would prefer a pro-soviet dictatorship).

As Chesterton said, it is the wind that moves the tree, the spirit that moves the matter, the French Revolution don't happened when people rebelled, they happened with the intellectuals inside Versailles Palace becaming radical liberals on the classic sense of the word, it seems that the air already moved the tree.

Some american here could explain what is happening on USA? I know that there is a lot of anti-american and anti-capitalist feelings inside USA, but not to the point of having teachers and militants going full marxist, openly wanting to destroy Christianity, private property, whatever they think that are burgueous or imperialist.

Should I become glad that the average american, like the average brazilian don't ever listen to their teacher because they will not be educated but at least they will not be intoxicated by radical ideology?

It is not hate only against USA Government, that would be acceptable, it's ideological hate against USA as a civilization, and they are getting to destroy it.

I recently downloaded the Hallow app for Lent. It has a lot of prayers and music options. The 40 day Lent challenge is based on St. Joseph.

James 4:7 "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."

1 Corinthians 6:18-20 "Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body."

Warning Against Worldliness
James 4:1-12 "What causes quarrels and what causes fights among you? Is it not this, that your passions are at war within you? You desire and do not have, so you murder. You covet and cannot obtain, so you fight and quarrel. You do not have, because you do not ask. You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions. You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. Or do you suppose it is to no purpose that the Scripture says, “He yearns jealously over the spirit that he has made to dwell in us”? But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.” Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you.

Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?"

James 2:8-13 "If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it. For he who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. So speak and so act as those who are to be judged under the law of liberty. For judgment is without mercy to one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment."

Jesus is Lord.

Almost all hospitals full in my city, we entered on forced lockdown, I'm insomniac, next days people who insisted on making carnival celebration breaking the law will make sure 100% of the hospitals became full, all non-essential surgery have been postponed, this long night is reaching it's darkest hour, I still protecting my family, thanks God I'm introverted.

There is good news, people are going more to the church, on internet, we can't take the host yet, but people are getting on two options, they are becoming nihilistic or accepting God.

My girlfriend was taking care of the mother of the boyfriend of her mother on an hospital, it was not COVID-19, she died, considering she was catholic I tell her about the Extreme Unction, to tell a priest to give it because she perceived as a woman who almost graduate as nurse that she was near death, the priests declined to go to the hospital, and there was no chaplain there despite having a chapel (it is a Catholic founded hospital, Holy Conception Hospital), I found it reasonable, they said that God is with them considering how faithful she was, most of them are old, and may spread the virus under the clergy, "oh but they don't believe God will protect them, where is your God now?", a skeptical would reply, well, we can't tempt God to do miracles, and miracles are supposed to be a rare thing, uncommon at least, and priests are human beings too and have fear as everybody. My girlfriend probably don't take this lightly, she loves mixing pagan and christian beliefs, mixed faith, she takes this as cowardice, I will tell her that the Catholic Church are not so imprudent as other churches that allowed people to enter saying that for being a church the place will protect them all from the plague, rising the number of infected people.

The nihilist ask how dare people like us find some meaning on a pandemics that will be followed by a global economic collapse.

My answer to them is how they don't see any meaning on this plague.

It's not the end, but it is as Chesterton said, a choose between light and darkness, and there is no option beyond that, even with the power of science to deal with the disease the victory against these dark times deals with finding the meaning behind it.

DEUS VULT.

Not the end. But could it be the beginning of the end?

Hundreds of years ago the Church tried to prevent protestants printing bibles. Today there are 25,000 groups all with their own interpretations of their bibles.

One book of interest is the Revelation. Many protestants are obsessed with it, and have interpreted it to the nth degree. On a more sinister note, many sinister groups are interested in it too.

It can be argued that much of the state of the world today has been guided by the book of Revelation.
-More and more centralised control and mega corporations owning all and everything.
-The micro chip tagging of humans agenda.
-Plagues and all sorts of tribulations.
-The creation of the entity called "Israel".

Protestants should be horrified by what they have predicted would happen and see taking shape; but, God love them, they get way too excited about end of the world things.
The creation of a world fit for an antichrist would see them getting persecuted. But I think protestants have a persecution complex. They want to be back in the days of Rome with the early Christians being persecuted. It's a larp that would justify their own faiths.
Then there are the other ones who will be raptured. With a literal 'bring it on' attitude.

So we have got Israel and are well on our way to total central control.

This whole OTT plague thing has me concerned now. Because there is clearly no intention of states letting things return to normal. Our own leaders have already warned about cancelling next Christmas. Mandatory and continuous vaccinations against a cold virus are on the agenda with restrictions on those refusing it.
And there is really no public kickback against this nonsense. Nearly everyone wears a face nappy in shops now. Everything Bill Gates is dreaming of seems like it will happen unopposed.

It seems like end game. And the world's leaders look to be determined that it is.

It's also weird that what is on the agenda and might happen in the future was directed by an interpretation of a vision in the past, of the future.

Hi! Magnus ducatus larii speaking. This is my old account, which I decided to restore. I think I'll play with it from now on, since it fits better in my political opinions.

I've returned as well, and I've been lurking on here, playing very casually. I don't know if any of you remember me. Probably not, as in my previous stay here I playing obesseively for a very short period of time and then decided to stop; and you probably won't ever, as I intend to be a casual. Regardless, it's an honour to be here.

Anyone see the disgusting images from everyone's "favourite" secular state in Europe, France? An old, beautiful chapel has been bulldozed to make room for a modern architectural abomination.

Omensa wrote:

Anyone see the disgusting images from everyone's "favourite" secular state in Europe, France? An old, beautiful chapel has been bulldozed to make room for a modern architectural abomination.

Disgusting

Omensa wrote:

Anyone see the disgusting images from everyone's "favourite" secular state in Europe, France? An old, beautiful chapel has been bulldozed to make room for a modern architectural abomination.

I'm not impressed with France doing it, they begun the destruction of the Western Civilization, on French Revolution they wanted to destroy Notre Dame to give place to a Temple of Reason, they still proud of their secularism but don't worry, soon their modern architecture will be bulldosed for the bulding of big mosques, and France never bulldoze even the smallest mosque, they will soon be just another Islamic colony anyway.

I love Jesus Christ my Lord and savior!

I was using Tik Tok again for 2 weeks and my spam of attention severely dropped, now I understand why most people can't read a book or even listen to a music with more than 2 minutes, and I'm feeling extremely dumb, well going mad from isolation, there is no people outside and I live in a metropolis.

Watching social media, addicting looty boxes games and Tik Tok I understand better the Catholic Church apparent relations with technology.

Most people defend technology as if it is good by itself, a new god, the excess of information is putting people into anxiety, and I have anxiety problems already.

The Catholic Church is against the evil use of technology, having the sober and basic notion that we need to have ethical patterns and concerns about it.

Prudentias wrote:

I was using Tik Tok again for 2 weeks and my spam of attention severely dropped, now I understand why most people can't read a book or even listen to a music with more than 2 minutes, and I'm feeling extremely dumb, well going mad from isolation, there is no people outside and I live in a metropolis.

Watching social media, addicting looty boxes games and Tik Tok I understand better the Catholic Church apparent relations with technology.

Most people defend technology as if it is good by itself, a new god, the excess of information is putting people into anxiety, and I have anxiety problems already.

The Catholic Church is against the evil use of technology, having the sober and basic notion that we need to have ethical patterns and concerns about it.

If you want to play a game that makes better use of your brainpower, I'ld recommend a sound strategy game such as Chess or an MMORPG (which requires long-term goals) such as RuneScape. I play both. Also offering up one or two days offline on the week as a penance helps you reorder your priorities. On those days, read a good book, pray, play some chess offline, exercise your body, cultivate the arts... It helps restore an equilibrium; if you become addicted to being online, then decide to abandon the internet completely out of frustration, it'll not solve the issue on the long run; but good balanced habits will.

Omensa wrote:

Anyone see the disgusting images from everyone's "favourite" secular state in Europe, France? An old, beautiful chapel has been bulldozed to make room for a modern architectural abomination.

At least Catholicism is still the largest religion in France, practiced by 41 % of the population. In Czechia, less than 10 % are Catholic today, compared to 96 % in 1910.

Estado Novo Portugues wrote:

At least Catholicism is still the largest religion in France, practiced by 41 % of the population. In Czechia, less than 10 % are Catholic today, compared to 96 % in 1910.

sadly laicite is strong in france though

Attike wrote:

If you want to play a game that makes better use of your brainpower, I'ld recommend a sound strategy game such as Chess or an MMORPG (which requires long-term goals) such as RuneScape. I play both. Also offering up one or two days offline on the week as a penance helps you reorder your priorities. On those days, read a good book, pray, play some chess offline, exercise your body, cultivate the arts... It helps restore an equilibrium; if you become addicted to being online, then decide to abandon the internet completely out of frustration, it'll not solve the issue on the long run; but good balanced habits will.

I am a big fan of strategy games, like Age of Empires, Stellaris, Civilization, Total War and Command & Conquer, the problem is that there's so much chaotic things happening that I don't have a calm mind even to play these games.

I already removed Tik Tok from the smartphone, most people there are toxic and the ideas are passed in small time, and in fact they are on all sides extremely weak and superficial, when some people makes a live, even with innocent things, there is always a patrol. There is always somebody asking "do you support LGBT?" or "do you support Baseball League Mantra?", a lot of girls are e-girls, asking people to go into onlyfans or searching for a "daddy" and glorifying it, it is really sick, there is good people but they are so few over there, every religion with the exception of Islam is criticized and criticism to China is clearly diminished, if this is the new media I'm done with it, I thought social media were already bad enough.

I am doing a work for a study group about Hobbes, this man is so anti-catholic that I was a supported of him and stopped, I always thought that he was so much into defending the sovereign but not to the point that he puts everything bellow the sovereign, when dealing with his Bible interpretation (a mechanistic and materialistic interpretation of it) he said one thing to the nobles and other to the protestants, sometimes hiding things from them, he looks like a Seventh Day Adventist arguing that there is no "immortal soul" in the Bible, that Catholics take it from Plato's philosophy. Sometimes he looks like an atheist in disguise, he adapts his interpretation to help his theory of "all power to the sovereign", he openly attacks the Catholic Church because it was a force capable of stopping the emperors, after reading this I'm forced to achieve that Hobbes was not paranoid or crazy, he was probably just evil.

Prudentias wrote:

I am doing a work for a study group about Hobbes, this man is so anti-catholic that I was a supported of him and stopped, I always thought that he was so much into defending the sovereign but not to the point that he puts everything bellow the sovereign, when dealing with his Bible interpretation (a mechanistic and materialistic interpretation of it) he said one thing to the nobles and other to the protestants, sometimes hiding things from them, he looks like a Seventh Day Adventist arguing that there is no "immortal soul" in the Bible, that Catholics take it from Plato's philosophy. Sometimes he looks like an atheist in disguise, he adapts his interpretation to help his theory of "all power to the sovereign", he openly attacks the Catholic Church because it was a force capable of stopping the emperors, after reading this I'm forced to achieve that Hobbes was not paranoid or crazy, he was probably just evil.

I agree completely on Hobbes. Hobbes was indirectly responsible for what is now modern day liberalism (basis of social contract theory and emphasizes reason). His "Leviathan" was based entirely on 'reason', and while Hobbes may claim that he believes in God, his work implies there is no greater good. In Hobbe's world humans have no greater aim but reason pushes them into contracts for protection. According to him there can be no morality unless laws account for it, morality is subjective to the state. His state of nature basically makes opportunistic animals out of humans, while discarding altruism and love.

Hobbe's real religion is that of state worship where the state can do no wrong because it apparently saves us from ourselves. Hobbes is a cold man who not only bashes Aristotle and Plato at every turn, but also believes in a purposeless world that needs humanity to be chained. He basically believes in an atheist version of the divine right of kings.

Cristero wrote:

I agree completely on Hobbes. Hobbes was indirectly responsible for what is now modern day liberalism (basis of social contract theory and emphasizes reason). His "Leviathan" was based entirely on 'reason', and while Hobbes may claim that he believes in God, his work implies there is no greater good. In Hobbe's world humans have no greater aim but reason pushes them into contracts for protection. According to him there can be no morality unless laws account for it, morality is subjective to the state. His state of nature basically makes opportunistic animals out of humans, while discarding altruism and love.

Hobbe's real religion is that of state worship where the state can do no wrong because it apparently saves us from ourselves. Hobbes is a cold man who not only bashes Aristotle and Plato at every turn, but also believes in a purposeless world that needs humanity to be chained. He basically believes in an atheist version of the divine right of kings.

Hobbesian political philosophy is the backbone for much of contemporary political discourse. Especially in regards to the one world government.

Cristero wrote:

I agree completely on Hobbes. Hobbes was indirectly responsible for what is now modern day liberalism (basis of social contract theory and emphasizes reason). His "Leviathan" was based entirely on 'reason', and while Hobbes may claim that he believes in God, his work implies there is no greater good. In Hobbe's world humans have no greater aim but reason pushes them into contracts for protection. According to him there can be no morality unless laws account for it, morality is subjective to the state. His state of nature basically makes opportunistic animals out of humans, while discarding altruism and love.

Hobbe's real religion is that of state worship where the state can do no wrong because it apparently saves us from ourselves. Hobbes is a cold man who not only bashes Aristotle and Plato at every turn, but also believes in a purposeless world that needs humanity to be chained. He basically believes in an atheist version of the divine right of kings.

I read more here and now I have real reasons beyond his insane excuse for theology. Things just get worse Brother.

Hobbes believes that PRUDENCE is not part of philosophy at all.

Ok, criticize Aristotle was the hype until XXth century, when he makes a glorious returns due to the Ethics of Virtue, that may be accepted on Christian (as Saint Thomas Aquinas did openly on his work) and atheist circles. It is fine to criticize Aristotle physics and observational model of science, in fact people on that era forgot that he divided science into fields, and that his method was the best for his era.

He reached to the point of saying what philosophy is, Hobbes is smart and clever, all his work have excellent architectonics, almost every single chapter seems to have each words calculated. When he reached the third book and beyond he begun to get less accurate, on Chapter 3 he wants to turn the Bible into a mechanistic source to support his absolutist criteria, the Chapter 4 is an entire bs criticizing of papacy and even the Anglicans, that he wrote a different text on Leviathan hiding parts that would be offensive or maybe heretical to Anglican Church, I totally agree with you.

Thomas Hobbes is so blind into using his firepower against the Catholic Church and the Scholastic, that is his main enemy target, that he openly target Aristotle too. Well, Plato is really the sort of philosopher that most people or agree or disagree, but Aristotle ethics is not something anyone would criticize without a heavy armor.

Hobbes just go with open chest against him and all his careful study about the State and State of Nature begun to become misguided, he targets Aristotle to reach collateral damage on Scholastic.

Even a consequentialist and utilitarianism take a lot of care to go against Aristotle ethics, that is deontological, even they don't throw everything Aristotle said in the trash, even they care about the question of prudence on the calculus to maximize good for society on their philosophical project.

That's why on university it is not mandatory to reach beyond Book 2 of the Leviathan, things just begun to go nuts beyond it, just partisan politics.

Ironically in one of his first books Thomas Aquinas to teach people uses Aristotle argument for the existence of God openly quoting his name, he seems like the dude who did the convenient thing for the moment, this is hypocrisy, beyond De Cive and book 1 and 2 of The Leviathan there is nothing really philosophical on his work, only a partisan madness that break with the intelligent things he wrote before that I disagree but I respect.

I must confess that I am strongly Aristotelic, as a Thomist leaning person I think that it's inevitable, I don't believe on contractualism, about the beginning of the State, I am heavily organicist, people unite in families, families unite in tribes, tribes unite in states and the states unite in a kingdom or republic.

Oh but the indigenous, they have no state, a lot of people said, well it's a valid criticism and I answer to them just telling about the Aztecs, Mayas, Incas, the Mapuche and the Iroquois Confederation, to say at least, when they reach a complexity level of society the sovereign power comes, it's not that the stateless tribes are inferior, they just don't got complexity enough, and even among most of them there is a chief, an hierarchical order even if there is not sovereignty yet.

New hapsburgland wrote:

Hobbesian political philosophy is the backbone for much of contemporary political discourse. Especially in regards to the one world government.

In fact the one world government was projected by Kant on his book, Perpetual Peace, this book openly influenced the creation of the UN on post-WW2. About States Hobbes defends that they lives on a state of nature, where people cares about preservation of life and power on the first place.

Coincidentally, the King or Queen of Britain is the head of state and of the Anglican Church, to the point of having restrictions on Catholics joining the nobility and getting the throne, ok, this happened before Hobbes, but he solidified this.

But his main project gladly failed thanks to UK banning absolute monarchy and adopting a better model of constitutional monarchy, Hobbes don't oppose a government by assembly (even a republic), but he openly prefers one man with all the power.

USA contractualist model was influenced by John Locke, he have problems but it's far better than Thomas Hobbes.

France was influenced by Rousseau, and we know what happened after all the bloodshed.

"I dethroned anarchy."

Napoleon Bonaparte

PS: I don't hate French people, well I must confess that s an Edmund Burke fan I lean towards the British, G.K. Chesterton is an big influence in my life and this British ironically taught me to like the French, my problem is with France as a State and most of his intellectuals, but honestly the French people was better when they were the Frankish people, when God sent a saint on a young girl to lead the Kingdom of France into an unexpected epic victory against the English and the Burgundians, and contrary to what most people said, the Maquis did an example on WW2, they were excellent on sabotage and spies, giving the information about the Atlantic Wall necessary for Operation Overlord and making a perfect distraction to help American, British and Canadian invasion of Normandy to liberate French. The only problem that I see with french people is that they are prone to ideological radicalism, and never, ever anger a French, by what I studied about their history when inspired they know how to fight, with bravery to the point of being on the edge.