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Oire wrote:

Education for women beyond a certain point seems to be counter productive.

"Etymologically, the word "education" is derived from the Latin word ēducātiō ("A breeding, a bringing up, a rearing") from ēducō ("I educate, I train") which is related to the homonym ēdūcō ("I lead forth, I take out; I raise up, I erect") from ē- ("from, out of") and dūcō ("I lead, I conduct")."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education#:~:text=Etymologically%2C%20the%20word%20%22education%22,lead%2C%20I%20conduct%22).

Education is more than simply learning your abc's and 123's and how to become the next Albert Einstein. I think it isn't education that's the matter since to educate is "to lead forth." Everyone is educated, it's a matter of where they have been led.

Women have been educated to believe by not just the education system but society and the culture as a whole that many evils are acceptable if not good. The same goes for men as well, just in a different flavour of evil.

In my opinion anyone learning academic stuff (as in the maths, language, arts, science, etc.) is more than fine. At the same time I find it ridiculous that the cultural narrative that education by nature of being educated will be good.

One must be led forth, yet where is the question.

Ironically enough I think my beliefs and my life in general is a battle between the educations. The Catholic teachings I knew were right yet have so often depressingly hardened my heart to (I say as I type away here due to a crippling internet addiction), and the culturally 'normal' education.

"Remember how outraged we were that the Vatican refuses to bless same-sex couples?

We should be equally outraged that the church refuses to ordain women.

These injustices are two sides of the same coin.

#OrdainWomen"

Twitter is a cesspool that needs to be stricken down. Why do these people call themselves Catholic? If they want to change the doctrine so much, join a protestant church or, even better, repent. "We," I assure that true Catholics were not upset.

Omensa wrote:

"Remember how outraged we were that the Vatican refuses to bless same-sex couples?

We should be equally outraged that the church refuses to ordain women.

These injustices are two sides of the same coin.

#OrdainWomen"

Twitter is a cesspool that needs to be stricken down. Why do these people call themselves Catholic? If they want to change the doctrine so much, join a protestant church or, even better, repent. "We," I assure that true Catholics were not upset.

The problem is that a lot of people just want to do what is the cultural fashion, it is modernism going wild, always under the threat of losing adepts, the Catholic Church is not a business to adapt to cultural changes that hurts it's principles and the adepts are not consumers to have their idea of church fullfilled, it's not about them, it's not about us, it's about God.

I read a lot of critics of how people are choosing or changing their religion with the criteria of a market, a lot of people don't choose their religion with basis of what they perceive to be truth but with basis of what is more compatible to their lifestyle, "oh Buddhism is peaceful and accept LGBT people, I am a LGBT, oh and it's pacifist with a vegetarian appeal, I am a vegetarian I will pick this for me".

Religion is not a product, most people don't realize it at all.

Talking with a friend over here...

- I will sell nude photos on onlyfans, there is people who have fetish on Brazilians and I am white-black mixed race.

- I am not wanting to be moralist but this is basically prostitution softened girl.

- Who cares, I don't need to f**k with anyone, men paid me to just talk on the phone with them, I softened my voice to look lile underage, and if I am talking to you by phone now it's because one of them paid phone credits to me.

- Woman life is a lot easy I see, if you don't have miney just throw your body at the table take some pics and a lot of s**ker* will pay for it. (yes this as misogynistic)

- F*** you Lincoln! It's capitalism, my family was destroyed by COVID, my father will not help me, he only cares about spending his day defending the cult of the president! It's capitalism, easy for you to judge me you are in a confortable position, you have food, internet, games, netflix and two degrees with a lawyer certificate, even on the worst scenario you will never lose your home, that's not certain for me! (That was a good hit people, I almost dropped the mic)

- And your mother?

- Well she is now with a farmer we shall sell it, for 200000USD (this make you really rich here... millionarie), and we will create cattle on large scale, my mother was wise to be with him, better than receiveing welfare.

- You are all just gold diggers, sorry for saying that.

- It's capitalism Lincoln, deal with it, we are in crysis all that matter is money now, you are a silly idealistic.

- It is nihilistic capitalism...

- I don't need your naive philosopher advices now, I need money.

- Ok I understand, I will call you later.

Judge by yourselves, I think both me and the girl have a point here, it almost ended the friendship, people are becaming dangeously nihilistic and capable to do anything for money, people here loves abusing power and money is the measure of your power, a lot of female friends are considering to just sell themselves as objects over there or making sexual favors to eliminate competition or to get a job, it's dark to the extreme. There is poor woman selling their bodies for food, some for drugs to escape reality, and accepting abusive relationships with physical violence and almost slavery condition for it too, as long there is money, drugs and food going in, they are lowering up to the level of sexual slavery and objetification and I feel with no power at all to deal with it.

My God, how much this darkness will continue.

Prudentias wrote:

Talking with a friend over here...

1. More honest work than to lead men on as friends and never indulging them. They get what they pay for.

2. she is perfectly free to make that choice but as a friend you should warn her that it is a trade-off: she is trading short-term gain for long-term sacrifice as few good men will ever want her to be the mother of their children.

She should make sure to save all the money, invest it wisely and not expect future love and family.

Prudentias wrote:

"I softened my voice to look lile underage,"

I suggest you find someone else to talk to for a while and just pray for this woman.

Hi, woman with a higher education here. A bit of background, I went to a public university with 3 men to every woman, and am the only female in my 18-person office of people with the same degree as me. Just thought I'd add the perspective of a woman to this conversation on women.

Oire wrote:

Education for women beyond a certain point seems to be counter productive.

The problem isn't just native to women, I would argue that the problem is with the structure of higher education. I've found that many men with higher educations possess a certain arrogance that isn't present in those without higher educations.

Prudentias wrote:

The problem is the education culture that's been applied to them, woman are being educated to feminism to the point of being spoiled, they make sure that every single misery that they suffer, even misery that is their fault for bad choices, is of the patriarchy to blame, this incentivates irresponsible behavior, nothing is their fault, and they are educated on libertine ways, to "discover their sexuality"

Literally everything you guys are saying can be applied to men as well. While some women curse the patriarchy whenever they stub their toe, equal numbers of men curse feminism when they have any inconvenience caused (directly or indirectly) by any woman, or even when they just meet a woman who is capable of holding her own.

When I hear men complain about how "spoiled" women are, it breaks my heart. I've worked my whole life to not be hired as a woman, but to be hired because I am the most fit human for the job. If you saw me with my hair a mess and up to my elbows in a machine's guts, I'd sure hope you'd think "wow that's a capable engineer" and not "wow that's someone they hired for diversity." I'd also like to add that while women may struggle with sexual sins, I've never in my life heard a woman talking about their sexual exploits the way I have heard men. If men stopped objectifying women (and TBH if women stopped objectifying themselves and other women) I doubt women would stay on the same course as you say they're on. In regards to the over-sexualization of women, I'd like to point out that the reason many women fall into that trap is because that's what many men are looking for. Lust isn't native to just one gender, and I'm pretty sure it takes two to tango.

The Sovereign Realist State wrote:

sadly, many women are not told the truth: that money and education actually decrease their relationship probability. Hypergamy is lethal

That only really applies to those who see money and education as the ultimate end. I studied engineering and have a well paying job as a single woman so that I can save every penny now to support a family of the size that I want when I marry and stop the 9-5. Unless I gave into hypergamy, which I agree is bad if accumulation of status and money are the only reasons you're doing it, then a man of equal position to me would really struggle being the sole provider with nothing to fall back on for the 10+ kids I want to have. As someone who has gotten a higher education, I have also made myself more able to homeschool my sons and daughters for a longer time.

The Pilgrims in the Desert well said, I think you have a great conclusion.

Eva Vlaardingerbroek is really something.

The scariest thing to a feminist is an actual strong independent woman. People seem to not know that modern day feminism is just communism but in another name.

https://youtu.be/V67r48_4Ol4

Medi terra wrote:

Hi, woman with a higher education here. A bit of background, I went to a public university with 3 men to every woman, and am the only female in my 18-person office of people with the same degree as me. Just thought I'd add the perspective of a woman to this conversation on women.



The problem isn't just native to women, I would argue that the problem is with the structure of higher education. I've found that many men with higher educations possess a certain arrogance that isn't present in those without higher educations.



Literally everything you guys are saying can be applied to men as well. While some women curse the patriarchy whenever they stub their toe, equal numbers of men curse feminism when they have any inconvenience caused (directly or indirectly) by any woman, or even when they just meet a woman who is capable of holding her own. 

When I hear men complain about how "spoiled" women are, it breaks my heart. I've worked my whole life to not be hired as a woman, but to be hired because I am the most fit human for the job.  If you saw me with my hair a mess and up to my elbows in a machine's guts, I'd sure hope you'd think "wow that's a capable engineer" and not "wow that's someone they hired for diversity." I'd also like to add that while women may struggle with sexual sins, I've never in my life heard a woman talking about their sexual exploits the way I have heard men. If men stopped objectifying women (and TBH if women stopped objectifying themselves and other women) I doubt women would stay on the same course as you say they're on. In regards to the over-sexualization of women, I'd like to point out that the reason many women fall into that trap is because that's what many men are looking for. Lust isn't native to just one gender, and I'm pretty sure it takes two to tango.



That only really applies to those who see money and education as the ultimate end. I studied engineering and have a well paying job as a single woman so that I can save every penny now to support a family of the size that I want when I marry and stop the 9-5. Unless I gave into hypergamy, which I agree is bad if accumulation of status and money are the only reasons you're doing it, then a man of equal position to me would really struggle being the sole provider with nothing to fall back on for the 10+ kids I want to have. As someone who has gotten a higher education, I have also made myself more able to homeschool my sons and daughters for a longer time.

The Pilgrims in the Desert well said, I think you have a great conclusion.

Literally... literally everything? Absolutely not with due respect fair lady.

There is not an equal number of man blaming feminism for their misery, unless you are dealing with MGTOWs, that's not most of the cases, I have two degrees on a field that have man and woman and in no one any man blamed feminism or woman empowerment for their misery, probably on social media it's different but it's hardly a parameter.

Glad you are on STEM field lady.

Well you are an exception, at least here where I live you will certainly be, absolutely no woman want to enter as the most fit person, in fact they live do brag and show that they are there "just" for being a woman, they even say that's their womanhood that put them there, it's all about feminism empowerment. Glad you are an exception lady.

About the man being responsible too for women with sexual sins, you are right to a certain point. You said that "literally" everything could be applied to us, this is not truth at all on this case.

Woman may use sexual favors easily to clim ladders, man don't have such power, it's common for teenager girls here offers sexual favors to the teacher on high school to get a better grade, if the teacher refuses they make a sexual assault accusation and ruin his life, forcing teachers to always keep woman score high to the point of don't knowing what girl got point by merit and what got point by seducing or threat. To a boy this is not on the table at all.

The problem with over-sexualization is that most feminists themselves don't want to end this, it's in fact part of their project of woman liberation to "discover your sexuality", they blame man for it but at the same time use this for "empowerment". Both genders are prone to lust but it is one that may actively use it with no setback to care about. It takes two to tango but if the first movement is of a man it's sexual assault (and that's right!), if the woman make the first movement it's just sexual expression, there is a bit of double standards on this dance lady. When I was into university there was a this phrase written on the wall made by a feminist movement:

"My p*s*y is my power!"

On the night I changed secretly to:

"My MIND is my power." (And not because I'm male, I wals tolding the women that their mind is their power not a genitalia).

And next day they changed it again:

"My p*s*y is my power against the minds of machists!"

It is impossible to change hypergamic culture when a feminist culture criticize objetification when dealing with man but see no evil on woman using it to achieve her ends at all.

The point of my post is that a woman must be educated to be a housewife too, that this is not becoming inferior to man, becoming a submissive slave of him or anything like that and man must be educated to help their woman too on this, a lot of woman say it's too much to work and take care of home and children at the same time, but actually most decent man do this too and don't complain about it.

Our schools teach women to masturbate but don't teach them to have any empathy, it's all about empowerment, and our schools teach man that everything is their fault, the female population made most suicide threats, male population made most real suicides, and there is no empathy at all for them. Man are excellent on being beggars, most people living into street are man, even the children, most woman receive free shelter and education by default, both deserve this, but the educational system is portraying all man as a criminal worthless gender with no value and to all woman that they are empowered deserves everything and that they are extremely capable, this made them mostly narcisistic people, it's not because they are woman, it's because they are targeted to be spoiled to advance ideological and political agenda.

If you said that you must be chosen for being an human instead of a woman here you would be accused by feminists of helping the patriarchy for "working with systemic machism" and probably they will work against you to put an "empowered" in your place, we imported this crap from USA ans EU. That's why I don't lament so much for the fall of the West, it's cultural influence here today is toxic to say at least.

Well, this is about education, so what's your purpose for an education good for man and woman without needing to appeal to feminism or standardization of all people?

Thank you for reading, God bless you fair lady. :-)

Medi terra wrote:

Hi, woman with a higher education here. A bit of background, I went to a public university with 3 men to every woman, and am the only female in my 18-person office of people with the same degree as me. Just thought I'd add the perspective of a woman to this conversation on women.

The problem isn't just native to women, I would argue that the problem is with the structure of higher education. I've found that many men with higher educations possess a certain arrogance that isn't present in those without higher educations.

Literally everything you guys are saying can be applied to men as well. While some women curse the patriarchy whenever they stub their toe, equal numbers of men curse feminism when they have any inconvenience caused (directly or indirectly) by any woman, or even when they just meet a woman who is capable of holding her own.

When I hear men complain about how "spoiled" women are, it breaks my heart. I've worked my whole life to not be hired as a woman, but to be hired because I am the most fit human for the job. If you saw me with my hair a mess and up to my elbows in a machine's guts, I'd sure hope you'd think "wow that's a capable engineer" and not "wow that's someone they hired for diversity." I'd also like to add that while women may struggle with sexual sins, I've never in my life heard a woman talking about their sexual exploits the way I have heard men. If men stopped objectifying women (and TBH if women stopped objectifying themselves and other women) I doubt women would stay on the same course as you say they're on. In regards to the over-sexualization of women, I'd like to point out that the reason many women fall into that trap is because that's what many men are looking for. Lust isn't native to just one gender, and I'm pretty sure it takes two to tango.

That only really applies to those who see money and education as the ultimate end. I studied engineering and have a well paying job as a single woman so that I can save every penny now to support a family of the size that I want when I marry and stop the 9-5. Unless I gave into hypergamy, which I agree is bad if accumulation of status and money are the only reasons you're doing it, then a man of equal position to me would really struggle being the sole provider with nothing to fall back on for the 10+ kids I want to have. As someone who has gotten a higher education, I have also made myself more able to homeschool my sons and daughters for a longer time.

The Pilgrims in the Desert well said, I think you have a great conclusion.

Well said. Thank you for the courage to speak up and I apologise on behalf of my fellow men for the rude and insensitive comments they have made (looking at you Prudentias).

Prudentias I could complain about the opposite gender all day every day if I wanted, but it does not make me a happier person so I do not. You and I have extremely different experiences, and I think it may be country culture. I’m in the USA Midwest, the only place I’ve ever seen any of what you’re saying is the yearly pro-abortion “Women’s” march in Washington DC. Sure people in the US may have the same experiences as you, but I don’t think it’s the rule. If you’re so unhappy with all the women in your life like you seem to talk about fairly frequently, I suggest that you find better women or look into moving to a happier place for your own sake.

When I said that literally everything could be applied to men too it kind of hurt a little, didn’t it? Thats how your comments insisting that women are garbage make the women in this forum feel too. Empathy, my dude.

Nantu wrote:

Well said. Thank you for the courage to speak up and I apologise on behalf of my fellow men for the rude and insensitive comments they have made (looking at you Prudentias).

Sensibility is not my issue, that is why I am not in social media at all, let's go man I was respectful to her, you westerners seems so soft with words sometimes, it's ok that I may not just speak what I wish, that there must be basic human respect, but when dealing with most people of USA and Europe area I need to CALCULATE each word I speak, even diplomacy with China that become offended by anything is not so hard sometimes, and you need to take care every single word with them.

And this is being said in peace, I am not angered or anything like that.

Ans just to remember, I was even less careful before to the point of being kicked from here and having my nation destroyed my the game moderators, well, if I will need to take even more care about my words I will do that, that's diplomacy and I want to be friend with everybody here, be it man or woman.

Do you know Star Trek? I am beginning to understand that the criticism of the Klingon Empire against the United Federation of Planets have a point.

Medi terra wrote:

Prudentias I could complain about the opposite gender all day every day if I wanted, but it does not make me a happier person so I do not. You and I have extremely different experiences, and I think it may be country culture. I’m in the USA Midwest, the only place I’ve ever seen any of what you’re saying is the yearly pro-abortion “Women’s” march in Washington DC. Sure people in the US may have the same experiences as you, but I don’t think it’s the rule. If you’re so unhappy with all the women in your life like you seem to talk about fairly frequently, I suggest that you find better women or look into moving to a happier place for your own sake.

When I said that literally everything could be applied to men too it kind of hurt a little, didn’t it? Thats how your comments insisting that women are garbage make the women in this forum feel too. Empathy, my dude.

Dear lady.

I used arguments, and don't taken things personally.

It's not about emotions here, maybe I've been not so sensible with you and I ask you honest forgiveness for that.

It's not a lack of empathy, what I said to you is empirical experience, maybe I am being so cold or my language is uncaring, this of course give me a diplomatic penalty.

I am not happy to all woman in my life, I have a girlfriend with COVID-19 that I love so much, I have more female friends than male (poetic irony), I have my mother that I love a lot too and I still keeping contact with my female teachers on philosophy university that teach me about logic and Aristotelian philosophy.

Let's restore diplomatic relationship here ok? I will be logical to the extreme.

1. The issue come with a critique of the sort of formal education woman have, that beyond a certain point may be toxic to them.

2. I argued that we are on a point of no return because the education for women were made not to truly educate then but to empower, what is in fact an ideological agenda.

3. To ilustrate that I show the results with empirical facts, that a lot of women were abusing it to get advantages, it obfuscate women like YOU that are competent on their own right and don't put it's "womanhood" as the cause of their success, but their own effort and talent. (My compliments for you)

4. Considering the problem, I asked to you what would be YOUR ideas on education for men and woman so we can educate woman to achieve success not for being of a gender, but for being good and talented persons like you.

5. And, as Emperor of Prudentias, I would like to sign in the name of my fair people a treaty of friendship with the noble people of Medi Terra. You are welcome on my fair planet anytime.

What do you think? Do you accept?

PS: I hope I was better at diplomacy this time people, let's go I am really trying.

Prudentias wrote:

Sensibility is not my issue, that is why I am not in social media at all, let's go man I was respectful to her, you westerners seems so soft with words sometimes, it's ok that I may not just speak what I wish, that there must be basic human respect, but when dealing with most people of USA and Europe area I need to CALCULATE each word I speak, even diplomacy with China that become offended by anything is not so hard sometimes, and you need to take care every single word with them.

And this is being said in peace, I am not angered or anything like that.

Ans just to remember, I was even less careful before to the point of being kicked from here and having my nation destroyed my the game moderators, well, if I will need to take even more care about my words I will do that, that's diplomacy and I want to be friend with everybody here, be it man or woman.

Do you know Star Trek? I am beginning to understand that the criticism of the Klingon Empire against the United Federation of Planets have a point.

You definitely need to close your words very carefully. What you said was not only offensive to women, but to me as a guy as well. I support empowering women as for far too long they were oppressed by men.

Why do you assume I am a Westerner? I think you need to take a step back before posting; a second look always yields better results.

Nantu wrote:

You definitely need to close your words very carefully. What you said was not only offensive to women, but to me as a guy as well. I support empowering women as for far too long they were oppressed by men.

Why do you assume I am a Westerner? I think you need to take a step back before posting; a second look always yields better results.

1. Why people care so much about being offensive, I am insulted on net once a week by foreigners just for being Brazilian because we are considered criminals and cheaters out there. We know most of us are not this way despite our culture saturated by corruption and don't care about it at all. I'm called a fascist by socialist, a communist by conservatives, a "m*ngi*a" by man, a "male trash" by feminist woman, an "idolater" by protestants, a "dumb superstitious" by atheists, a "white trash" by people of other ethnicity and a "latino trash" by some white people aboce Equator Line. Why should I care? Most people have a so soft and thick skin, we must be more resilient, that's just what I think, I take your criticism.

2. I don't assume you are westerner, but most people here are, and this is not bad at all, in fact Brazil consider itself Westerners, our institutions, language and culture have Western origins, it is the "top West" (USA and Europe) that deal with us as if were western influenced but in the end just an ex-colony. Well despite my criticism of West extreme sensibility with words I would really love to be westerner, I love Western Civilization before post-modernism.

3. I check two or three times my message and after this I check for english mistakes, and sometimes I don't get it, I take a second look, even a third look, but last years to deal with western people sensibilities is being harder than dealing with devout islamic people and chinese supporters of their government (and God knows how easy it is to hurt these people).

4. I understand that I don't help it too, I'm so cold when calculating sensibilities, but I fear there must be a middle ground, because we are reaching to a point, on global scale, that people will not communicate with each other anymore for fear of hurt their fellings, so people only communicate with people within their "social bubble" and the free flow of ideas is stopped just for fear of toxicity.

5. All of the written words were made in a friendship tone, just for the case of looking rude again, thank you.

Fredgast wrote:

I suggest you find someone else to talk to for a while and just pray for this woman.

I wish I hadn't read much of what Prudentias posted, even with some word censorship it's a bit out of bounds for this board. Then again, some people got a prayer which they would not have gotten without it. It's a funny old world.

Medi terra wrote:

The problem isn't just native to women, I would argue that the problem is with the structure of higher education. I've found that many men with higher educations possess a certain arrogance that isn't present in those without higher educations.

1. the video in question had a bunch of 'educated women' who were particularly bonkers.
2. I am a sexist pig who doesn't need much of an invitation to post sexist comments.

Medi terra wrote:

Literally everything you guys are saying can be applied to men as well. While some women curse the patriarchy whenever they stub their toe, equal numbers of men curse feminism when they have any inconvenience caused (directly or indirectly) by any woman, or even when they just meet a woman who is capable of holding her own.

When I bash feminism I am really bashing the men who have capitulated to feminist demands. All women's rights are rights that could not have been obtained without the consent of men.

Medi terra wrote:

When I hear men complain about how "spoiled" women are, it breaks my heart. I've worked my whole life to not be hired as a woman, but to be hired because I am the most fit human for the job. If you saw me with my hair a mess and up to my elbows in a machine's guts, I'd sure hope you'd think "wow that's a capable engineer" and not "wow that's someone they hired for diversity."

I can't imagine a feminist seeing a capable engineer, who happens to be a woman, and totally ignoring her gender either.

Medi terra wrote:

I'd also like to add that while women may struggle with sexual sins, I've never in my life heard a woman talking about their sexual exploits the way I have heard men. If men stopped objectifying women (and TBH if women stopped objectifying themselves and other women) I doubt women would stay on the same course as you say they're on. In regards to the over-sexualization of women, I'd like to point out that the reason many women fall into that trap is because that's what many men are looking for. Lust isn't native to just one gender, and I'm pretty sure it takes two to tango.

Totally agree. Rugger bugger (jock) talk is cringe and embarrassing. They objectify women in private then in public praise the women's rights movement.

Beyond this, there is an eternal problem here. The interaction between men and women. It is impossible to resolve as women can distract men to destruction. Some societies go so far as to cloak all women in public and to prohibit men from even looking in their eyes.

Medi terra wrote:

then a man of equal position to me would really struggle being the sole provider with nothing to fall back on for the 10+ kids I want to have.

Feminism brought women into the workplace. Banks ultimately had to exploit the situation to ensure they could drain both incomes for the privilege of a housing loan and doubled house prices. Making it extremely difficult for the single income family. Banks are absolute scum. Fortunately the Dragon Slayer is here in Bitcoin.

Terentino wrote:

Eva Vlaardingerbroek is really something.

The scariest thing to a feminist is an actual strong independent woman.
https://youtu.be/V67r48_4Ol4

To quote myself "There is nothing as uninspiring as a confident woman".

She is mentioning the first to fourth fifth whatever wave of feminism as all separate things. Parialand argued the same thing before. I don't buy it. Looking back at it all feminism for over a century has brought us to the degenerate state we are in at the moment.

Prudentias wrote:

Dear lady.

Welcome to the message board Aung San Suu Kyi.

Oire wrote:

I wish I hadn't read much of what Prudentias posted, even with some word censorship it's a bit out of bounds for this board. Then again, some people got a prayer which they would not have gotten without it. It's a funny old world.

1. the video in question had a bunch of 'educated women' who were particularly bonkers.
2. I am a sexist pig who doesn't need much of an invitation to post sexist comments.


When I bash feminism I am really bashing the men who have capitulated to feminist demands. All women's rights are rights that could not have been obtained without the consent of men.


I can't imagine a feminist seeing a capable engineer, who happens to be a woman, and totally ignoring her gender either.


Totally agree. Rugger bugger (jock) talk is cringe and embarrassing. They objectify women in private then in public praise the women's rights movement.

Beyond this, there is an eternal problem here. The interaction between men and women. It is impossible to resolve as women can distract men to destruction. Some societies go so far as to cloak all women in public and to prohibit men from even looking in their eyes.


Feminism brought women into the workplace. Banks ultimately had to exploit the situation to ensure they could drain both incomes for the privilege of a housing loan and doubled house prices. Making it extremely difficult for the single income family. Banks are absolute scum. Fortunately the Dragon Slayer is here in Bitcoin.


To quote myself "There is nothing as uninspiring as a confident woman".

She is mentioning the first to fourth fifth whatever wave of feminism as all separate things. Parialand argued the same thing before. I don't buy it. Looking back at it all feminism for over a century has brought us to the degenerate state we are in at the moment.


Welcome to the message board Aung San Suu Kyi.

Lmao, you sound like me more than you think Oire, I remember myself doing this sort of post.

I know you love me.

Prudentias wrote:

Considering the problem, I asked to you what would be YOUR ideas on education for men and woman so we can educate woman to achieve success not for being of a gender, but for being good and talented persons like you.

I say this with all my love, you’re seriously part of the problem. This statement here combined with earlier where you list out the women you respect in your life. I had a successful education and have a successful career specifically because (almost) nobody saw me differently because of my gender. I was most alienated and set apart because of the things the school did to retain me over my male counterparts, and the only issues i had were men looking down on me because of that affirmative action. For example, a professor telling me I wouldn’t make a good engineer because I wasn’t a male in his special interest group. A male classmate got frustrated when he found out that the school sent me a mug and a flash drive for being accepted and also a woman, and it just isolated him from me so I had to work harder to maintain the friendship. By treating me differently the school made me work harder to prove I wasn’t handed what I worked for.

Diversity-related hiring practices are also more harmful than helpful for the same reason IMHO, luckily my boss’s reputation as someone who only hires competent people protects me from those who would think otherwise.

Sure, men and women are biologically different and are built for different things, but it starts with you and everyone else not drawing a clear line in the sand to separate us where none is needed. For the love of all that is good, treat me as a regular person and not different because of my gender and the issue suddenly magically disappears.

Prudentias wrote:

Why people care so much about being offensive, I am insulted on net once a week by foreigners just for being Brazilian because we are considered criminals and cheaters out there. We know most of us are not this way despite our culture saturated by corruption and don't care about it at all. I'm called a fascist by socialist, a communist by conservatives, a "m*ngi*a" by man, a "male trash" by feminist woman, an "idolater" by protestants, a "dumb superstitious" by atheists, a "white trash" by people of other ethnicity and a "latino trash" by some white people aboce Equator Line. Why should I care? Most people have a so soft and thick skin, we must be more resilient, that's just what I think, I take your criticism.

Again I say this with all my love, this comes off as seriously painfully childish. It’s basic playground etiquette, just because other people say mean things doesn’t mean that you should feel free to say mean things. You should care because that’s ground zero basic human decency and basic Catholic morality.

Anyways, Pope Peter II happily accepts your offer of a friendship treaty, and your embassy will stand proudly in our capital until the Second Coming.

Oire wrote:

Beyond this, there is an eternal problem here. The interaction between men and women. It is impossible to resolve as women can distract men to destruction.

Then teach your sons self control and teach your daughters modesty and prudence. Change starts with each one of us.

Medi terra wrote:



I say this with all my love, you’re seriously part of the problem. This statement here combined with earlier where you list out the women you respect in your life. I had a successful education and have a successful career specifically because (almost) nobody saw me differently because of my gender. I was most alienated and set apart because of the things the school did to retain me over my male counterparts, and the only issues i had were men looking down on me because of that affirmative action. For example, a professor telling me I wouldn’t make a good engineer because I wasn’t a male in his special interest group. A male classmate got frustrated when he found out that the school sent me a mug and a flash drive for being accepted and also a woman, and it just isolated him from me so I had to work harder to maintain the friendship. By treating me differently the school made me work harder to prove I wasn’t handed what I worked for.

Diversity-related hiring practices are also more harmful than helpful for the same reason IMHO, luckily my boss’s reputation as someone who only hires competent people protects me from those who would think otherwise.

Sure, men and women are biologically different and are built for different things, but it starts with you and everyone else not drawing a clear line in the sand to separate us where none is needed. For the love of all that is good, treat me as a regular person and not different because of my gender and the issue suddenly magically disappears.



Again I say this with all my love, this comes off as seriously painfully childish. It’s basic playground etiquette, just because other people say mean things doesn’t mean that you should feel free to say mean things. You should care because that’s ground zero basic human decency and basic Catholic morality.

Anyways, Pope Peter II happily accepts your offer of a friendship treaty, and your embassy will stand proudly in our capital until the Second Coming.



Then teach your sons self control and teach your daughters modesty and prudence. Change starts with each one of us.

Well, what is mean to your culture and most of you is just another day in my culture, but in Rome like the romans. And you invocated Catholic morality here and that should be (and it os) universal, so I can't stand against this argument.

Welcome to the Embassy on Prudentias. Yes is that floating neogothic architecture in the sky you may reach there with the space elevators, yes we are a Catholic sci-fi nation, as an engineer you may change everything except the architecture style without any problems. Knowledge, cultural and trade exchange have being already declared, thank you fair lady.

Good afternoon to everyone. I have to admit that I am quite surprised by this discussion and by the hostile reactions it has caused. Personally, I just do not see what the big deal is about wemen accessing higher education; in fact, I find this topic offensive to feminine intelligence end empowerment. Culture is the only mean thanks to which people could develop their own critical sense, so that they could develop a systematic and organic view of the world and its history, especially in confused time like ours. Faith, integrity and honesty are not a matter of culture and erudition, but a matter of family upbringing and volunty. Furthermore, culture is also a valuable tool in our own spiritual life, since it provides us the intellectual attitude to appreciate the Revelation. Reason without faith is atheism, but faith without reason is fanaticism. We should always remeber that the two columns of Western world are both Jerusalem and Athens, which have found their perfect syntesis in Rome.
(For the avoidance of doubt, I am national-conservative, in the European sense. I am Italian and I am not into the byzantinisms of American politics, even though I have profound admiration for USA history).

My solidarity to everyone who felt offended by some aggressive and disrespectful messages I had the unfortunate chance to see on this chat.

Said apart: in the presence of so many Americans on this chat I am always in awe when I write in English. =)

Novi comi res publica wrote:

Good afternoon to everyone. I have to admit that I am quite surprised by this discussion and by the hostile reactions it has caused. Personally, I just do not see what the big deal is about wemen accessing higher education; in fact, I find this topic offensive to feminine intelligence end empowerment. Culture is the only mean thanks to which people could develop their own critical sense, so that they could develop a systematic and organic view of the world and its history, especially in confused time like ours. Faith, integrity and honesty are not a matter of culture and erudition, but a matter of family upbringing and volunty. Furthermore, culture is also a valuable tool in our own spiritual life, since it provides us the intellectual attitude to appreciate the Revelation. Reason without faith is atheism, but faith without reason is fanaticism. We should always remeber that the two columns of Western world are both Jerusalem and Athens, which have found their perfect syntesis in Rome.
(For the avoidance of doubt, I am national-conservative, in the European sense. I am Italian and I am not into the byzantinisms of American politics, even though I have profound admiration for USA history).

My solidarity to everyone who felt offended by some aggressive and disrespectful messages I had the unfortunate chance to see on this chat.

Well said friend, I learn new diplomatic skills on this episode and that it's useless to have empathy if you don't show it on communication, maybe years playing single player games and doing work that requires only cold argumentation messed my mind, now I understand why even my girlfriend say that most of the times I am cold.

But being emotional makes me feel so... weak.

Novi comi res publica wrote:

Said apart: in the presence of so many Americans on this chat I am always in awe when I write in English. =)

English is the lingua franca of the world, even on non western discussion boards english is accepted as language.

It's a simple grammar language, unlike our latin origin languages (Portuguese and Italian), but english phonetics are really tricky. Portuguese native speakers have problems to speak "third" and "turd" (The "th" phonetics don't exists on Portuguese at all.), "beach" and "b**ch" (that's awful) and "thanks" and "tanks".

At least Portuguese speakers have the ability to understand Spanish without knowing the language at all. We can presume with some lucky what it means. As am example "mira" means "look" in Portuguese "mirar" is the verbal form of "targeting" and "mira" is the capacity to target a weapon or the scope of the weapon itself, so when a spanish says "mira" we go on targeting look at once, "to look" in Portuguese é "Olhar" act with the "olhos" ("ojos" in Spanish, not so different) that is "eyes", but I am not here to teach Portuguese, it's just because it's really fun to speak Portuguese because it'a somewhat a strange cousin of Spanish language.

PS: I already repeting my sins here people, please stop targeting if you are doing it, I'm behaving better now people, or at least I'm trying.

Another leftist toxicity. This time, about Drag queen hour for children. Disgusting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaSpI4-g1Gg