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Manndorria wrote:

I'm pretty sure this is a Rp and if you can't get anything through your thick skull maybe you should do something else with your time all I've seen for the last two days was you complaing and making insults towards people in Callista maybe its best that you leave.

WARNING FOR FLAMING. Not only was NG's comments not directed at you, you used an ad hominem attack and flamed him. Please read our rules before making any future posts. I understand if you are frustrated but please do not resort to telling someone to leave Callista or saying they have a thick skull.

Boilanzandia, ARIsyan-, there will be no Guangdong (Cantonese) independence, not for East Cantonia (Chaoshan), not for Hong Kong, not for Macau, none of these. Just as there will be no Californian independence, not for Silicon Valley, not for Los Angeles, not for the Bay Area, none of these. Practically for the same reasons: how could a Chinese/American state interact amiably towards a Cantonese/Californian state? There is a strategic value that is enhanced by the economic value of California and the Pearl River Delta. The only way is if there is extensive nationalism that results in balkanization.

Rio Paraguay wrote:

Boilanzandia, ARIsyan-, there will be no Guangdong (Cantonese) independence, not for East Cantonia (Chaoshan), not for Hong Kong, not for Macau, none of these. Just as there will be no Californian independence, not for Silicon Valley, not for Los Angeles, not for the Bay Area, none of these. Practically for the same reasons: how could a Chinese/American state interact amiably towards a Cantonese/Californian state? There is a strategic value that is enhanced by the economic value of California and the Pearl River Delta. The only way is if there is extensive nationalism that results in balkanization.

Hong Kong has a massive independence movement and the majority of HK supported the pro-democracy camp before it was banned. Macau is a lot smaller and more assimilated into China, but HK has a solid reason for independence.

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Boilanzandia wrote:

I am suing both and The H Corporation for improper conduct befalling that of an RP administrator and committing abuse of power knowingly.

This is ridiculous, since when applying rules is abuse of power

i can’t wait to see ace attorney on this here rmb

The H Corporation wrote:

This is ridiculous, since when applying rules is abuse of power

Since when purposely twisting rules and using the power of one's role to benefit themselves, then that is abuse of power.

ARIsyan- wrote:

Hong Kong has a massive independence movement and the majority of HK supported the pro-democracy camp before it was banned. Macau is a lot smaller and more assimilated into China, but HK has a solid reason for independence.

'massive' only 30% of the population support it.

im too tired to get some popcorn, so here, everyone can take some popcorn. don’t forget the refreshments

Boilanzandia wrote:

Since when purposely twisting rules and using the power of one's role to benefit themselves, then that is abuse of power.

1. There are no rules regarding NPC nations
2. The casus belli is reasonable
3. It’s an NPC nation, the rules never say anything on how to go to war with an NPC nation
4. It’s just a change in ideology, the nation is still as powerful as when you left it, we did not make it collapse which IS godmodding

The H Corporation wrote:

1. There are no rules regarding NPC nations
2. The casus belli is reasonable
3. It’s an NPC nation, the rules never say anything on how to go to war with an NPC nation
4. It’s just a change in ideology, the nation is still as powerful as when you left it, we did not make it collapse which IS godmodding

It appears that you are unaware about how traditionally rp is administered. I can only say before the trial to respond to points one and two
1. so are you saying that if there's no rules to prevent someone from abusing their power, they can abuse their power?
2. the casus belli is not reasonable, like ive been saying numerous times. i don't want to repeat myself, just look at literally every single one of my arguments saying otherwise.
3 and 4 i'm planning on discussing in the trial

Boilanzandia wrote:

'massive' only 30% of the population support it.

the pro democracy movement is still very strong and those polls are dubious

The H Corporation wrote:

1. There are no rules regarding NPC nations
2. The casus belli is reasonable
3. It’s an NPC nation, the rules never say anything on how to go to war with an NPC nation
4. It’s just a change in ideology, the nation is still as powerful as when you left it, we did not make it collapse which IS godmodding

most of these arguments are the same as you've been making two days ago, because coincidentally you constantly ignore my arguments and eventually shut it down (which is a violation of the callistan constitution might i add)

ARIsyan- wrote:

the pro democracy movement is still very strong and those polls are dubious

they're pro-democracy. not pro-independence.
oh yeah and saying that macau should have independence is utterly ridiculous. there have been no outcrys from macau at all.

Plus Nova Imperii since H corp is online and Rhen isn't (when you're online) i would like to begin the trial against h corp first.

Boilanzandia wrote:

they're pro-democracy. not pro-independence.
oh yeah and saying that macau should have independence is utterly ridiculous. there have been no outcrys from macau at all.

Just because people support a dictatorship doesn't mean that the dictatorship is justified.

Boilanzandia wrote:

Plus Nova Imperii since H corp is online and Rhen isn't (when you're online) i would like to begin the trial against h corp first.

Can we have trials for two people at once? That's a thing that happens IRL but it has to be proven they colluded in some way.

Boilanzandia wrote:

It appears that you are unaware about how traditionally rp is administered. I can only say before the trial to respond to points one and two
1. so are you saying that if there's no rules to prevent someone from abusing their power, they can abuse their power?
2. the casus belli is not reasonable, like ive been saying numerous times. i don't want to repeat myself, just look at literally every single one of my arguments saying otherwise.
3 and 4 i'm planning on discussing in the trial

1. Your analogy is ridiculous, how does your argument compare to mine?
2. It is, the war was declared because of the canal not because they became communists.

Boilanzandia wrote:

most of these arguments are the same as you've been making two days ago, because coincidentally you constantly ignore my arguments and eventually shut it down (which is a violation of the callistan constitution might i add)

Now you are exaggerating to levels I can't even imagine

ARIsyan- wrote:

Just because people support a dictatorship doesn't mean that the dictatorship is justified.

(lets make this clear) I do not support the CCP, and I support restoration of democracy. But I do not believe Macau should be independent from China, neither should Hong Kong. Both have always, for most of China's history, remained a part of China, are culturally and ethnically Han Chinese, and don't even support independence themselves. Should they have democracy? Yes. Independence? I don't think so, and unless if (again) popular sovereignty prooves, then I might (key word might as i'm still on the fence with Taiwan) change my opinion

The H Corporation wrote:

1. Your analogy is ridiculous, how does your argument compare to mine?
2. It is, the war was declared because of the canal not because they became communists.
Now you are exaggerating to levels I can't even imagine

1. uh, its because you are directly implying that you can do whatever you want so long as its not written in the rules. its from the earlier argument too
2. not the canal excuse. the canal would've never been closed if the communists ('radical socialists') didn't take power, which is once again, WHAT I'M COMPLAINING ABOUT. and it is DIRECTLY STATED in RHEN'S POST that he also wished to war with the Greeks because of the 'red menace'
3.ok, so you did threaten to give me a warning? you do realize I can criticize something I find wrong to my heart's content, as long as i'm not flaming, flamebaiting, or trolling?

Boilanzandia wrote:

1. uh, its because you are directly implying that you can do whatever you want so long as its not written in the rules
2. not the canal excuse. the canal would've never been closed if the communists ('radical socialists') didn't take power, which is once again, WHAT I'M COMPLAINING ABOUT.
3.ok, so you did threaten to give me a warning? you do realize I can criticize something I find wrong to my heart's content, as long as i'm not flaming, flamebaiting, or trolling?

1. I am not implying anything, that's what you decided to think because what Rhen did was perfectly legal under the rules that were written, and those same rules which no one ever complained about, not even you, ah but now that they are used against you now it is tyranny
2. Now we are getting into nitpicking everything. Reasonable if it was the casus belli, but if it was the change of ideology, to which I remind you, it was done to an NPC nation is ridiculous.
3. It was done to stop the arguing, I have done this multiple times in the past. The argument was going NOWHERE and it was alienating both of you and Rhen. So I put it to a stop, everyone does that, but because is you, is "a violation to my rights"

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