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The Avengrynkhal Ascendant of Klaus Devestatorie

https://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poets/paterson-a-b-banjo/the-man-from-ironbark-0001016

The Undying Empire of Demy Fiyeriter

don't panic guys, I'm back

The Top Wolfmensch of Armaros

Demy Fiyeriter wrote:don't panic guys, I'm back

Welcome back!

The Sanguine Majesty of Kshrlmnt

Demy Fiyeriter wrote:don't panic guys, I'm back

What if your return is why we panic?

Zpuppet1

Hello it is I the card puppet of Zeritae

The Sanguine Majesty of Kshrlmnt

Whale hello thar.

The Top Wolfmensch of Armaros

Kshrlmnt wrote:Whale hello thar.

Hello :)

The Avengrynkhal Ascendant of Klaus Devestatorie

Gameplay is dead, nobody acts or talks in good faith anymore, and most regions are refusing to participate.

10/10 praise Cruor.

The Top Wolfmensch of Armaros

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Gameplay is dead, nobody acts or talks in good faith anymore, and most regions are refusing to participate.

10/10 praise Cruor.

Surprise. Tends to happen when all people do in gameplay is sit an whine about the actions of everyone else.

Now, if you ignore the GP crowd on the forums, there is some level of gameplay going on, be it on a far less active scale.

Guess that’s what GP got for turning into a social media drama club.

The Avengrynkhal Ascendant of Klaus Devestatorie

Armaros wrote:Surprise. Tends to happen when all people do in gameplay is sit an whine about the actions of everyone else.

Now, if you ignore the GP crowd on the forums, there is some level of gameplay going on, be it on a far less active scale.

Guess that’s what GP got for turning into a social media drama club.

My 10/10 ranking isn't sarcastic, mind you. That political sphere won't be missed.

The Top Wolfmensch of Armaros

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:My 10/10 ranking isn't sarcastic, mind you. That political sphere won't be missed.

I didn't think you were being sarcastic :P

Wasn't even a political sphere. That would require it to have any goals other then drama.

The Avengrynkhal Ascendant of Klaus Devestatorie

Armaros wrote:I didn't think you were being sarcastic :P

Wasn't even a political sphere. That would require it to have any goals other then drama.

It was a sphere within which politics happened, damn it. Don't make me get any more technical than that. :P

The Top Wolfmensch of Armaros

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:It was a sphere within which politics happened, damn it. Don't make me get any more technical than that. :P

Works for me :P

But yes, gameplay is taking is taking its dying breaths. And for the better, hopefully. Maybe we will get regionalists and ideologists again instead of people who get their kicks from OOC drama on a sub-forum. Maybe we can play a bloody game again instead of this social media drama game.

Or maybe not.

The Avengrynkhal Ascendant of Klaus Devestatorie

Armaros wrote:Works for me :P

But yes, gameplay is taking is taking its dying breaths. And for the better, hopefully. Maybe we will get regionalists and ideologists again instead of people who get their kicks from OOC drama on a sub-forum. Maybe we can play a bloody game again instead of this social media drama game.

Or maybe not.

New regions should just make a clean break from the very concept of gameplay and do their own thing. Find friends and allies off the region lists. They don't need to be already tied into the embassy exchanges, or have ties to existing gameplay, or be involved in R/D gameplay, or even have any "gameplayers" in there at all. Build a new thing somewhere else. Nobody even needs to talk to Europeia, or Osiris, or whoever else.

The Top Wolfmensch of Armaros

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:New regions should just make a clean break from the very concept of gameplay and do their own thing. Find friends and allies off the region lists. They don't need to be already tied into the embassy exchanges, or have ties to existing gameplay, or be involved in R/D gameplay, or even have any "gameplayers" in there at all. Build a new thing somewhere else. Nobody even needs to talk to Europeia, or Osiris, or whoever else.

It would indeed be best if new regions formed ties to other new regions, and start anew. The old “gameplay” (although that term is outdated and wrong, we’re all just playing the bloody game) regions don’t need new regions to ally up with them and eventually just be absorbed into those older regions. A new sphere, clean of the old mess, would be best.



Brassus

Back from the grave and I see that there has been some interesting conversation.

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:New regions should just make a clean break from the very concept of gameplay and do their own thing. Find friends and allies off the region lists. They don't need to be already tied into the embassy exchanges, or have ties to existing gameplay, or be involved in R/D gameplay, or even have any "gameplayers" in there at all. Build a new thing somewhere else. Nobody even needs to talk to Europeia, or Osiris, or whoever else.

Armaros wrote:It would indeed be best if new regions formed ties to other new regions, and start anew. The old “gameplay” (although that term is outdated and wrong, we’re all just playing the bloody game) regions don’t need new regions to ally up with them and eventually just be absorbed into those older regions. A new sphere, clean of the old mess, would be best.

This is an interesting take to see. As I have more or less stated outright before in public and private, one of the main goals of The Ascendancy (TA) was ultimately to do this. The hope was to carve out a sphere independent of the rest of NS Gameplay and exist therein. This wasn't altruistic, mind you, since hegemony within this new sphere was intended for TA, but ultimately this was the intent. After years of melodramatic conflict with Europeia and associated regions, including within this region when many of TA's core members were a part of Unknown back in the day, we felt that the best way forward was to ultimately carve out our own space. The trouble came from various members not being able to let go of old grudges and thereby seeking out conflict with the people that we were meant to leave behind, and some of the misguided and (in other cases) outright pointless antics of some other members (myself being one of them). Indeed, the conflict that TA had with this region was another example of the failure to follow the proper plan.

Perhaps it was inevitable in the particular case of TA due to the region's close ties to a past very much intertwined with the larger NS Gameplay community. However, I remain convinced that, if a true divestment with the "old world" of NS Gameplay is done and the new sphere is given time to incubate and mature, this is a viable strategy forward. I have intended to try it on numerous occasions since TA, however I have always been impeded by commitments outside of NS (unfortunately I am not all that young anymore haha!) and am a bit of a perfectionist with my regional set-ups (and thus don't roll them until I am satisfied) so I've never actually gotten to do so.

As Armaros correctly notes, participating with these older regions just means that you will be assimilated into them (even if your region remains nominally distinct). This was one of the catalysts that fuelled the coup attempt here when a certain person from Europeia was on the throne here many years ago, since the region was being overrun with outsiders who had no intention of really adopting this region as a home and instead just treated it as one of the many playgrounds wherein the same cast of characters more or less can be found, just in different chairs.

The best way forward imo is to seek out regions who are not tied into sphere dominated by a mainstream power (or in any sphere under any power, ideally). Establish relations with them and work to build bridges, maybe even help some of them with things that you have the capacity to offer. Resist the urge to try to merge/annex any of them. Instead, if you're looking at all to grow from them (which may not be one's goal), just establish strong relations and show your region to be a great place to be and you will very likely gain members that way due to their exposure to your region via these relationships, while those who don't want to have dual-citizenship in your region will still exist within the same broader sphere and as those other regions continue down their path, there will be the basis for strong ties between you to carry forward into the future. Further, in conjunction with the preceding, if you can bring new blood into the game entirely and populate your region with them, especially if you have strong ties to these people outside of NS, you can forge a great bedrock for a distinct and well-founded community that does not draw as much or at all from the same well that the mainstream NS Gameplay communities drink out of.

The Undying Empire of Demy Fiyeriter

dude, I just log on to this website to live my brutal dictator fantasies. What's all this talk about politics and whatever?

Brassus

Demy Fiyeriter wrote:dude, I just log on to this website to live my brutal dictator fantasies. What's all this talk about politics and whatever?

I mostly just log into this website out of habit and to occasionally reminisce about the time I have spent on it roleplaying as a maniacal blue sheep demon tbh.

The Avengrynkhal Ascendant of Klaus Devestatorie

I should've been a damn blue sheep demon. That was probably the way to go, damn it.

If only I had more time.

The Top Wolfmensch of Armaros

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:I should've been a damn blue sheep demon. That was probably the way to go, damn it.

If only I had more time.

It’s never too late, don’t let your dreams be dreams!

The Sanguine Majesty of Kshrlmnt

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:I should've been a damn blue sheep demon. That was probably the way to go, damn it.

If only I had more time.

I'd pay to see it happen.

The Bloodwinged Angel of Savaer

Brassus wrote:I mostly just log into this website out of habit and to occasionally reminisce about the time I have spent on it roleplaying as a maniacal blue sheep demon tbh.

I must have been a cold bloody corpse when the sheep part came to pass.... Far as logging in... It's a middle finger to my "detractors". I could exist just fine off the map as a ghost they'd never bloody find.

A fearless leader

Are they doing another Z-day, I'm just here for the Z-day.

The Crepuscular Conspiracy of Princess Shadow

I still exist here for whatever reason and because I'm too anal retentive to let my nations CTE.

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