1. Extensive bigotry 2. Extensive antagonism and infiltration of other regions 3. The founder explicitly threatened other regions (forum/on-site included) after the initial deletion 4. Other bad stuff we can’t talk about on-site
Seou
Saksoni
Im not that good into english, could you tell me what bigotry means? Also about 3, i dont really believe he would do that. I knew him and he seemed like a chill person until somebody threatens his region or liberty.
Bigotry means things like anti-gay, anti-trans, or racist language.
It doesn’t matter what you think about him, no offense. He spent over 4 years constantly antagonizing me personally, so I feel like I know better than you especially given how new you are.
His repetitive poor behavior got him banned from the site altogether, so there isn’t much to gain by defending him.
Layem hid behind the ideals of Liberty to spread hate. He might of seemed chill to you, but that's because you didn't outright fit the criteria of his targets. I personally never dealt with Layem myself, but I have dealt with similar people who lie behind an ideology to sling hate.
Could any of you show me his message? I know freedom can be used to spread something to destroy it, and then hide from the defenders telling its freedom of word, but i cant believe such a person did such things. Well, if he did, and you dont show me proof, he would have to be a spy master to hide so well, and he isnt.
Also, why did black hawks and communist block go there? Was it an act of unity to destroy the evil? Or was this just to gain some glory as a liberator and hide their next conquests?
It ain't hard to infiltrate. Make a nation nobody knows is you and don't tell anyone it's you. Easy.
And the reason so many different organizations were present in the raid is because they all knew of the bigotry and unsavoury action Layem did. We all united to take down a region infamous for heavy antagonization and rampant intolerance.
Ok, so he took a page or two from kim. I knew nothing of that. Also, i meant to hide these messages from us for so long and people not suspecting anything.
Like Tsuki No Hana said. As for proof, NS moderators did a very good job at deleting Layem's hateful posts. I'm trying to get the ones that don't violate NS's rules cause I don't want to be on the wrong side of the Moderators.
Seou
Saksoni
Hateful? Most of these people were just asking wth is happening to the RMB! I was one of them! I seen wall before it, and everything was just fine! Also, i have a felling i seen Tsuki no Hana on Mailce RMB. Worst raiders for me.
You'd be correct in assuming I'm a former BoM member. But that does absolutely nothing to discount what I say about Layem. My gameplay affiliations matter little. The fact that so many people across so many organizations- some of whom are moralist defenders- united to destroy Layem should be more than enough proof that the entire NS gameplay community knew of Layem's wrongdoings. Denying it and suggesting some kind of conspiracy is downright unreasonable.
Nevermind the fact that you're basing your entire argument off of a few months at most of experience in Layem while readily ignoring the years of experience of people that contradict your statements that are present in this raid.
are you saying we can't debate those topics because they are considered bigotry?
Saksoni
Hey, that sanctum wasnt bad and from what i seen, the raiders destroyed exactly their opposite in name of anti fasicst action and liberation. What did the conservatists do them? Well, it isnt black and white, but i still think the raiders have the darker colors.
Tsuki no hana
Sanctum was horrible. Constant transphobia, their founder convinced someone to commit suicide, constantly harassed others, were fascist. One of the people present in that raid literally cried with joy because Sanctum had hurt them that much.
Seou and Nootnootnootnoot
Saksoni
Could i get to know his nation name( of that person who commited suicide)? If i could get it, i would 100% believe atleast sanctum was rigth to raid. Oh, and also the person who cried of joy. That would also make me sure Layem was also rigth to raidm
Seou
Tsuki no hana
The nation is dead now. The player was unable to keep it alive for obvious reasons. If it isn't signed into for 28 days, it dies. And since the player couldn't sign in...
Seou
Saksoni
Forum maybe? Did he write something?
Seou
Tsuki no hana
The nation is nonexistent. They might have posted on the forum, but I never knew them personally.
Seou
Tsuki no hana
Anyways, I'm asking the person who cried if they're okay with my dropping their name here. I'll let ya know when they answer.
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