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The United Kingdom of Kyievska Rus

Asturgien wrote:You just made me want to write a law in German but I don't know what to write

HAHAHAHAHA. COOl. Clear your mind first and then let the ideas flow.

Asturgien and Avrav

Asturgien

Beside the constitution, I also wrote a penal code

The United Kingdom of Kyievska Rus

Asturgien wrote:Beside the constitution, I also wrote a penal code

Thanks for the idea, I will do the same :) HAHHAHA.

Asturgien

Asturgien

Kyievska Rus wrote:Thanks for the idea, I will do the same :) HAHHAHA.

If you desire to read it, would you mind telling me whether you like it?

Greater thuni

Let's go I got an issue chain.

The United Kingdom of Kyievska Rus

Asturgien wrote:If you desire to read it, would you mind telling me whether you like it?

A penal code must have the time of penalties so I think you should put that.

Asturgien

Kyievska Rus wrote:A penal code must have the time of penalties so I think you should put that.

I can't decide on time. A punishment may seem harsh while few moments after it seems too merciful to me.

The United Kingdom of Kyievska Rus

Asturgien wrote:I can't decide on time. A punishment may seem harsh while few moments after it seems too merciful to me.

Aggravating then, you could include it there, it's just an idea.

Asturgien

Asturgien

Kyievska Rus wrote:Aggravating then, you could include it there, it's just an idea.

I can't decide on the proper punishment. It either feels too harsh or too light for me

The United Kingdom of Kyievska Rus

Asturgien wrote:I can't decide on the proper punishment. It either feels too harsh or too light for me

OK, your decision :)

Asturgien

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The Puddle of Socialist Platypus

Supero Omnia wrote:Offenders of the Supero Omnian state will be added to the colony list:

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The abkhaz

hey there guys i just arrested and/or exiled all my authoritarians
(also nuloerkun long time no see)

Socialist Platypus, Transcontinental union, and Avrav

Asturgien

Can we do a poll? legalization of homosexuality vs criminalization of homosexuality

The abkhaz

sure why not

Asturgien

The Puddle of Socialist Platypus

Asturgien wrote:Can we do a poll? legalization of homosexuality vs criminalization of homosexuality

Ask Nova Briton if it's for regional polls, but I'm pretty sure that will be very much in favour of legalisation, as there isn't any real reason to criminalise it.

Asturgien

The abkhaz wrote:sure why not

thanks, I like to see what other thinks so a poll rich of votes would also help me understand different opinions

The Kingdom of Nova Briton

Asturgien wrote:Can we do a poll? legalization of homosexuality vs criminalization of homosexuality

Sure ok, but don't expect me to be nice to people who vote for the latter

Asturgien



Asturgien

Socialist Platypus wrote:Ask Nova Briton if it's for regional polls, but I'm pretty sure that will be very much in favour of legalisation, as there isn't any real reason to criminalise it.

there is, sodomy increases cases of hiv (gays until 1995 lost 25 years of lifespan because of hiv), anal and oral sex if done without precautions are more harmful than vaginal sex, lgbt people are more likely to have more partners than one, domestic violence occurs more in same-sex couples (as BBC confirms https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648), the lgbt movement behave more rebel than straight people and thus are more likely to commit small crimes, the consumption of alcohol and drugs is higher if compared to straight people, and many more reasons that I won't say just because being lgbt became propaganda

Asturgien

Nova Briton wrote:Sure ok, but don't expect me to be nice to people who vote for the latter

Thanks for accepting to grant the poll. I listed why I'm against, just to let you know that I have reasons to oppose it

The Puddle of Socialist Platypus

Asturgien wrote:snip

That's all well and good (not trying to fact check what you sent because I don't have the time but I'm sure some of those stuff are either false or due to how the homosexual community has been treated)
But all of that doesn't matter in the face of the fact that you do not choose to be homosexual you are born homosexual.
It's the same as saying "You have red hairs that should be a crime, you know that red headed people are statistically more likely to.. '" in worse since you can color your hair but you can' t change who you are attracted to.

The United Kingdom of Kyievska Rus

Asturgien wrote:there is, sodomy increases cases of hiv (gays until 1995 lost 25 years of lifespan because of hiv), anal and oral sex if done without precautions are more harmful than vaginal sex, lgbt people are more likely to have more partners than one, domestic violence occurs more in same-sex couples (as BBC confirms https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648), the lgbt movement behave more rebel than straight people and thus are more likely to commit small crimes, the consumption of alcohol and drugs is higher if compared to straight people, and many more reasons that I won't say just because being lgbt became propaganda

1. Anal sex is not only practiced in homosexual sex, something that would be good to highlight since it is often used as a vague argument, why homosexual marriage should not be legalized. You also have to know that rights should not be measured by not having diseases or being prone to suffering them; if this were the case, killing the unborn should be a right for the simple fact that they could suffer from the flu.
2. It is legalizing gay marriage, not the LGBT community. That community is rotten because it has become political and not social, as it was before. Currently they are used by the left for their own ends, something that rot the movement. I do not support the movement and you have to differentiate very well between being gay and being part of the Community; Being gay does not make you part of the community, that is, people decide.

The Kingdom of Nova Briton

Asturgien wrote:there is, sodomy increases cases of hiv (gays until 1995 lost 25 years of lifespan because of hiv), anal and oral sex if done without precautions are more harmful than vaginal sex, lgbt people are more likely to have more partners than one, domestic violence occurs more in same-sex couples (as BBC confirms https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648), the lgbt movement behave more rebel than straight people and thus are more likely to commit small crimes, the consumption of alcohol and drugs is higher if compared to straight people, and many more reasons that I won't say just because being lgbt became propaganda

Wow! What a load of worthless crap! At least now I know how you feel about me I guess.

1. Damn. I wonder if there was an incredibly homophobic society at the time of the AIDs epidemic that prevented gay people from getting the care they needed. Hm.
2.Gay people can have vaginal sex too, and straight people can have anal and oral sex
3. Yeah, because men face issues with coming out about abuse and women are seen as unable to abuse people, as well as homophobia added on top of it which leaves a lot of gay people without a support system to help them.
4.That's completely made up. That's literally just a stereotype. How is this relevant.
5. Almost like people use drugs and alcohol to cope with being abandoned by their family and told they don't deserve basic human rights
6. Your dad is propaganda

Cle Brait, Greater thuni, Avrav, and Daraln

Greater thuni

Nova Briton wrote:snip- essentially a violation in it's purest form

Oh wow. Remind me never to face you in debate. Luckily I'm on your side. Asturgien you lucky I'm too tired and sleepy to swing at you rn. I'll your mean body tomorrow.

Nova Briton, Avrav, and Daraln



Tuvinya

Kyievska Rus wrote:

1. Anal sex is not only practiced in homosexual sex, something that would be good to highlight since it is often used as a vague argument, why homosexual marriage should not be legalized. You also have to know that rights should not be measured by not having diseases or being prone to suffering them; if this were the case, killing the unborn should be a right for the simple fact that they could suffer from the flu.
2. It is legalizing gay marriage, not the LGBT community. That community is rotten because it has become political and not social, as it was before. Currently they are used by the left for their own ends, something that rot the movement. I do not support the movement and you have to differentiate very well between being gay and being part of the Community; Being gay does not make you part of the community, that is, people decide.

I'd say it's the opposite meaning that the lgbt political community has been using the left for their own goals, further emptying left wing orgs of their original values until nothing remained but their own policies.
You can easily verify this by comparing propoposals by the founders of the lgbt political movement from the 60s and by contemporary leftist movements, which are identical.

Transcontinental union

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