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Cieszynski slask

Austro danubia wrote:I agreeSocialists killed more people than n@zis in the 20th century
Remember that the Soviet Union and China weren’t communist but socialist

Bithynia-crimea wrote:We didn't just solve a island problem but we also on same page too. Say no to left.

WERE NOT COMMIES!
SCANDINAVIAN MONARCHIES ARE SOCIAL ASWELL
WERE NOT COMMIES!
WERE WELFARISTS!
WERE LIKE BERNIE SANDERS!
SOCIALISM EQUAL COMMUNISM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBYmeLBWjeI

Austro danubia



Cieszynski slask

Austro danubia wrote:Socialists killed more people than n@zis in the 20th century
Remember that the Soviet Union and China weren’t communist but socialist

COMMIES ARE RADICALIST SOCIALISTS
NOT ALL SOCIALISTS ARE LIKE THAT
USSR AND CHINA ARE D!CKS THEY KILLED SO MANY PEOPLE
THEY WERE COMMIES
ČSSR WASN'T COMMUNIST DURING THE RULE OF ANTHONY NOVOTNÝ AND ALEXANDER DUBČEK, IT WAS SOCIALIST, BUT THEN RUSSIANS CAME AND WERE LIKE:
"No, u too free"
AND THEN INVADED US!
(it was called the Prague Spring [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Spring])

Austro danubia

Velkij novgorod

Cieszynski slask wrote:COMMIES ARE RADICALIST SOCIALISTS
NOT ALL SOCIALISTS ARE LIKE THAT
USSR AND CHINA ARE D!CKS THEY KILLED SO MANY PEOPLE
THEY WERE COMMIES
ČSSR WASN'T COMMUNIST DURING THE RULE OF ANTHONY NOVOTNÝ AND ALEXANDER DUBČEK, IT WAS SOCIALIST, BUT THEN RUSSIANS CAME AND WERE LIKE:
"No, u too free"
AND THEN INVADED US!
(it was called the Prague Spring [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Spring])

History
(Yanab, East. Tatarstan, CieSla and KosCyp get the meme)

The Considerate dictatorship of Eastern Tatarstan

Nobody was, and nobody is, a true Communist. Communism, and to major extent even Socialism, is practically impossible to realise in the orthodox way as described by Marx. Nobody ever held true to the Communist manifesto and most people were only inspired by it and what they practiced was a subgroup of Communism/Socialism (e.g. Stalinism, Marxism-Leninism, Neo-Marxism, Socialism with human face...) altered in a certain way in hopes to make Marx's thoughts more fiesable in practice. I disagree with all of them. Yes, Dubček was way better than Stalin, yes, Hoxha was more orthodox than Neo-Marxists but I wouldn't like to live in a country run by either of them. I would only ever chose a form of Socialism if the other choice was a worse form of Socialism or Communism.

Cieszynski slask

Eastern Tatarstan wrote:Nobody was, and nobody is, a true Communist. Communism, and to major extent even Socialism, is practically impossible to realise in the orthodox way as described by Marx. Nobody ever held true to the Communist manifesto and most people were only inspired by it and what they practiced was a subgroup of Communism/Socialism (e.g. Stalinism, Marxism-Leninism, Neo-Marxism, Socialism with human face...) altered in a certain way in hopes to make Marx's thoughts more fiesable in practice. I disagree with all of them. Yes, Dubček was way better than Stalin, yes, Hoxha was more orthodox than Neo-Marxists but I wouldn't like to live in a country run by either of them. I would only ever chose a form of Socialism if the other choice was a worse form of Socialism or Communism.

But, what about Sweden?

The Considerate dictatorship of Eastern Tatarstan

Cieszynski slask wrote:But, what about Sweden?

What's up with Sweden?

Austro danubia

Bithynia-crimea wrote:We didn't just solve a island problem but we also on same page too. Say no to left.

Agree to Centre

Cieszynski slask wrote:WERE NOT COMMIES!
SCANDINAVIAN MONARCHIES ARE SOCIAL ASWELL
WERE NOT COMMIES!
WERE WELFARISTS!
WERE LIKE BERNIE SANDERS!
SOCIALISM EQUAL COMMUNISM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBYmeLBWjeI

*screams in centre*

Cieszynski slask wrote:COMMIES ARE RADICALIST SOCIALISTS
NOT ALL SOCIALISTS ARE LIKE THAT
USSR AND CHINA ARE D!CKS THEY KILLED SO MANY PEOPLE
THEY WERE COMMIES
ČSSR WASN'T COMMUNIST DURING THE RULE OF ANTHONY NOVOTNÝ AND ALEXANDER DUBČEK, IT WAS SOCIALIST, BUT THEN RUSSIANS CAME AND WERE LIKE:
"No, u too free"
AND THEN INVADED US!
(it was called the Prague Spring [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Spring])

just read Marx. You’ll understand that USSR and China aren’t commies.
Read the communist manifesto.
Marx said:
There will be no currency
No state
And so on

Cieszynski slask

Eastern Tatarstan wrote:What's up with Sweden?

Sweden IS socialist.

Austro danubia wrote:Agree to Centre*screams in centre*just read Marx. You’ll understand that USSR and China aren’t commies.
Read the communist manifesto.
Marx said:
There will be no currency
No state
And so on

We're centrist aswell(kinda leanin' lib tho)
Oh, so Marx was AnCom?

Austro danubia

Bithynia-crimea

Cieszynski slask wrote:Sweden IS socialist.
We're centrist aswell(kinda leanin' lib tho)
Oh, so Marx was AnCom?

Sweden is higly free market society with a lot of tax. It's not socialist. Bernie Sanders is a liar. Sweden tried socialims at 80s, it failed. SWEDEN OR ANY SCANDINAVIAN COUNTRY IS NOT LEFTIST! THATS US MEDIA LIE!

Marx was commie. Communism has no state. Commies says, we will rule all state at first and kill all rich. THen we will creat anarchist society with ideas of materalism. AnCom don't suppor the idea of state in fisrt place. So for Marxist state is tool for anarchy. But for anarchist, state is enemy.



Bithynia-crimea

Socialist Countries:
USSR: Destroyed half of its people
China: Same but still alive thanks to capitalist economical plans
Cuba: Same but lost its everything
North Korea: Yu know
Vietnam: Start civil war, US and USSR joined in and lasted for decade. It destroyed a lot of people.
Laos: Destroyed a lot at coup, they are one of the most poorest nation now
Zimbabwe: Destroyed a lot at civil war, they are one of the most poorest nation now
Angola: Destroyed a lot at civil war but after war they stop being socialist because it didn't work
3rd Reich: Yu know
Chile: Went into bankrupt in 1 year than went into civil war.

I can count more socialist countries. But communism never been achieved and will never be because it's utopian.

Again, Scandinavia never been communist o socialist. Nordic System is just capitalisms with more tax. For example, a car's tax is more than it's own prize at Denmark. The reason why this system works is, Scandinavians uses tax money good unlike USSR.

I can send some links on subject if u want

Bithynia-crimea

Now dear friend Austro. Since we agreed on lands of Cyprus I guess we can start another diplomatical program on Crete island's position. Just give it to me.

The Considerate dictatorship of Eastern Tatarstan

Cieszynski slask wrote:Sweden IS socialist.
We're centrist aswell(kinda leanin' lib tho)
Oh, so Marx was AnCom?

Leanin' lib left or lib right? XD

Unlike Socialism, Sweden has no:
Collective ownership, cooperatives (JZDs or Kolkhozes), commune government (but they are pretty close), economic and industrial democracy, planned economy, equal opportunity (actually they've got it but limited), free association, sharing economy, social dividend, workers' self-management...

Bithynia-crimea wrote:Sweden is higly free market society with a lot of tax. It's not socialist. Bernie Sanders is a liar. Sweden tried socialims at 80s, it failed. SWEDEN OR ANY SCANDINAVIAN COUNTRY IS NOT LEFTIST! THATS US MEDIA LIE!

Marx was commie. Communism has no state. Commies says, we will rule all state at first and kill all rich. THen we will creat anarchist society with ideas of materalism. AnCom don't suppor the idea of state in fisrt place. So for Marxist state is tool for anarchy. But for anarchist, state is enemy.

Ancap is true anarchy. Ancom = all freedom except economic freedom. Ancap = all freedom.



Bithynia-crimea

Eastern Tatarstan wrote:Leanin' lib left or lib right? XD

Ancap is true anarchy. Ancom = all freedom except economic freedom. Ancap = all freedom.

Ancap has big problem. Safety. NAP is not enough. Would work in little towns or US style planed city. But it wouldnt work in East-Euro countries. How can you protect you property when it's just one little apartment in whole old soviet building.

Calisto states

Cieszynski slask wrote:WE ALREADY BEEN ON THE MOON:
"My history book said: They were a superpower in the cold war they wer neutral, but participated in the space race.
They've won it as they send the first man to space in 27th december 1959 and a 2 men and a woman to the moon in january 20th 1969"

The Rockets name is Silver Lion 2.

LOL not part of RP

Cieszynski slask

Bithynia-crimea wrote:Socialist Countries:
USSR: Destroyed half of its people
China: Same but still alive thanks to capitalist economical plans
Cuba: Same but lost its everything
North Korea: Yu know
Vietnam: Start civil war, US and USSR joined in and lasted for decade. It destroyed a lot of people.
Laos: Destroyed a lot at coup, they are one of the most poorest nation now
Zimbabwe: Destroyed a lot at civil war, they are one of the most poorest nation now
Angola: Destroyed a lot at civil war but after war they stop being socialist because it didn't work
3rd Reich: Yu know
Chile: Went into bankrupt in 1 year than went into civil war.

I can count more socialist countries. But communism never been achieved and will never be because it's utopian.

Again, Scandinavia never been communist o socialist. Nordic System is just capitalisms with more tax. For example, a car's tax is more than it's own prize at Denmark. The reason why this system works is, Scandinavians uses tax money good unlike USSR.

I can send some links on subject if u want

Oh, so theyre not socialist?
.....
we arent aswell i guess.....
cuz we take inspiration from them

Eastern Tatarstan wrote:Leanin' lib left or lib right? XD

Unlike Socialism, Sweden has no:
Collective ownership, cooperatives (JZDs or Kolkhozes), commune government (but they are pretty close), economic and industrial democracy, planned economy, equal opportunity (actually they've got it but limited), free association, sharing economy, social dividend, workers' self-management...

Ancap is true anarchy. Ancom = all freedom except economic freedom. Ancap = all freedom.

KosCyp LibLeft, me and Novgorod LibRight
Yeah.... we're like nordics....
So we arent real socialists but just welfarists?

Calisto states wrote:LOL not part of RP

IT IS

Calisto states

The Considerate dictatorship of Eastern Tatarstan

Maybe we should all do this:
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/
or perhaps the 8 values test and share our results.

First rome



Cieszynski slask

Welcome here First rome!
So this guy is Eastern Tatarstan, he's slovak and is the leader of the region, you can call him Tatar after a while.
This one's Calisto states, he's from US and is the space guy, you can call him callisto.
These three are Kosovo-cyprus, Austro danubia and Bithynia-crimea, they had a RMB war for cyprus recently, you can call them KosCyp, Austro and Bithynia.

We recently had a discussion about socialism
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
BTW Yanab killed Cidade capitalista do sul

Calisto states, Austro danubia, and First rome

Cieszynski slask

Eastern Tatarstan wrote:Maybe we should all do this:
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/
or perhaps the 8 values test and share our results.

Yep, predictable, centrist leaning lib-left....
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-0.33&auth=-0.67&prog=6.56

Bithynia-crimea

Cieszynski slask wrote:Yep, predictable, centrist leaning lib-left....
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-0.33&auth=-0.67&prog=6.56

It's not even Nordic system. You are just Neoliberal monarch.



First rome

Cieszynski slask wrote:Welcome here First rome!
So this guy is Eastern Tatarstan, he's slovak and is the leader of the region, you can call him Tatar after a while.
This one's Calisto states, he's from US and is the space guy, you can call him callisto.
These three are Kosovo-cyprus, Austro danubia and Bithynia-crimea, they had a RMB war for cyprus recently, you can call them KosCyp, Austro and Bithynia.

Oh thanks, hi guys. So I am Islamical nation who believes a lot of conspiracy theories. (As roleplay) To me all of you ruled by lizard people, Rome never existed -it's lie of Catholics church-, we are all Hyperborean and Adam was member founder of them, Mu Continent exist but Tatarstan hides it from us, there are more lands after north and sout pole, there are more people who lives in hallow world, there is Nazi base on moon... etc. etc.

We recently had a discussion about socialism
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
BTW Yanab killed Cidade capitalista do sul

It's nice to meet with all of you, https://imgur.com/a/MSoAbJE can I claim this lands?

Austro danubia

Bithynia-crimea

Cieszynski slask wrote:Welcome here First rome!
_____________________
BTW Yanab killed Cidade capitalista do sul

Holy molly, when and why?

First rome

Eastern Tatarstan wrote:Maybe we should all do this:
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/
or perhaps the 8 values test and share our results.

https://imgur.com/a/vdxISog

Bithynia-crimea

Eastern Tatarstan wrote:Maybe we should all do this:
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/
or perhaps the 8 values test and share our results.

https://imgur.com/a/v3W5hw2

The Considerate dictatorship of Eastern Tatarstan

Cieszynski slask wrote:Welcome here First rome!
So this guy is Eastern Tatarstan, he's slovak and is the leader of the region, you can call him Tatar after a while.
This one's Calisto states, he's from US and is the space guy, you can call him callisto.
These three are Kosovo-cyprus, Austro danubia and Bithynia-crimea, they had a RMB war for cyprus recently, you can call them KosCyp, Austro and Bithynia.

We recently had a discussion about socialism
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
BTW Yanab killed Cidade capitalista do sul

Nobody ever called me Tatar.

Cieszynski slask wrote:Yep, predictable, centrist leaning lib-left....
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-0.33&auth=-0.67&prog=6.56

I'm right 4,67 and all other scales are at 0.

Bithynia-crimea wrote:Holy molly, when and why?

Never. It just CTEd on its own.

First rome wrote:https://imgur.com/a/vdxISog

I hear helicopters in the distance :D

Bithynia-crimea wrote:https://imgur.com/a/v3W5hw2

Noice.

Calisto states and Austro danubia

Cieszynski slask

Bithynia-crimea wrote:It's not even Nordic system. You are just Neoliberal monarch.

Oh, but were still inspired by SocBert

Calisto states

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