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Ferdinand Schafer wrote:

What are you planning for the holidays? (If anything)

A long awaited chance to rest and relax. Nothing too elaborate.
How about you?

Silver-Tree wrote:

A long awaited chance to rest and relax. Nothing too elaborate.
How about you?

I visited the city christmas market on wednesday 20th, it was really nice but it was also packed full of people and two days later I wound up with influenza.

I'm trying to get Conservative in my nation to go up, can you help?

Ferdinand Schafer wrote:

I visited the city christmas market on wednesday 20th, it was really nice but it was also packed full of people and two days later I wound up with influenza.

Christmas markets can be very charming places.

Sorry to hear you have been unwell over Christmas. I hope you have now recovered.

The Prussian Reich wrote:

I'm trying to get Conservative in my nation to go up, can you help?

The Prussian Reich
Not sure what you mean. Would you elaborate.

Silver-Tree wrote:

The Prussian Reich
Not sure what you mean. Would you elaborate.

I'm supposed to be a Conservative monarchy, but my Social Conservatism is going down :(
page=list_nations?censusid=8
Can you help?

The Prussian Reich wrote:

I'm supposed to be a Conservative monarchy, but my Social Conservatism is going down :(
page=list_nations?censusid=8
Can you help?

The Prussian Reich Ah I see. Looks like you need select responses to issues so that the state drives or dictates what the population are able to do.

Silver-Tree wrote:

The Prussian Reich Ah I see. Looks like you need select responses to issues so that the state drives or dictates what the population are able to do.

Ok, thx.

The Prussian Reich wrote:

Ok, thx.

Good luck The Prussian Reich
Come back to us here if you need further advice.

Why are we closing embassies?

The Prussian Reich wrote:

Why are we closing embassies?

We didn't do that at our end. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
We do not want to withdraw embassies.
I can't cancel the withdrawal as we didn't start the withdrawal. Can you cancel it at your end? It looks like you have several that have instigated withdrawal.

Silver-Tree wrote:

We didn't do that at our end. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
We do not want to withdraw embassies.
I can't cancel the withdrawal as we didn't start the withdrawal. Can you cancel it at your end? It looks like you have several that have instigated withdrawal.

I'll try.

The Prussian Reich wrote:

I'll try.

Thank you The Prussian Reich.
If you can't cancel it, after the withdrawal, we can request embassies and reinstate them.

Silver-Tree wrote:

Thank you The Prussian Reich.
If you can't cancel it, after the withdrawal, we can request embassies and reinstate them.

Ok.
I just have to wait for the guy that withdrew the embassy.

So, the reason why Spy is closing embassies is becuz you were embassies with Berbina, a region that was raided for being fascist.

The Prussian Reich wrote:

So, the reason why Spy is closing embassies is becuz you were embassies with Berbina, a region that was raided for being fascist.

We didn't know that.
If we close the Berbina embassy will Spy cancel your closure?

Silver-Tree wrote:

We didn't know that.
If we close the Berbina embassy will Spy cancel your closure?

The Prussian Reich I have checked and we do not have an embassy with Brebina. I can't see anything that shows we ever did. We don't know anything about their policies.
Please ask Spy to reconsider the cancellation.

Silver-Tree wrote:

The Prussian Reich I have checked and we do not have an embassy with Brebina. I can't see anything that shows we ever did. We don't know anything about their policies.
Please ask Spy to reconsider the cancellation.

Can you ask spy that please.

Nvm don't

Silver-Tree wrote:

Christmas markets can be very charming places.

Sorry to hear you have been unwell over Christmas. I hope you have now recovered.

Just in time for the new year. Visited my parents for some dinner and fireworks. It is unfortunate that my Christmas plans got canceled but, thinking about how many people in Ukraine, Gaza and many other places in the world have things so much worse than I, would make it narcissistic to start to cry a river about it. Me and my influenza is utterly trivial in perspective to everything else. Besides, my Christmas wasn't ruined altogether. Before the market I went to this Pre-Christmas party hosted by my local boardgame hobbyist group on the 16th, and I also made some Christmas pastries for myself before I got sick.

The Prussian Reich wrote:

So, the reason why Spy is closing embassies is becuz you were embassies with Berbina, a region that was raided for being fascist.

Silver-Tree wrote:

The Prussian Reich I have checked and we do not have an embassy with Brebina. I can't see anything that shows we ever did. We don't know anything about their policies.
Please ask Spy to reconsider the cancellation.

The Prussian Reich, we have more than 300 embassies. How do you suppose we can keep track of every one and what drama goes on inside them? Even if the connection had existed, punishing us for it is unreasonable. You need to consider the different circumstances behind each region accused of association. Could we have seen Brebina being a fascist region at the precise moment a connection would have first been established? How long was Brebina around? How long did it take to uncover the discovery to cause all these ripples in the airwaves of the ether?

Also, I looked into the Brebina situation at the start and I'm not buying the narrative 100%. Having a Fascist RO, even with the express awareness / support of the founder does not yet necessarily make the region on the whole fascist. To me that would have to be something more systematic, widespread or definitive of their own systems, preferences and policies. Putting up with one Fascist RO does not yet indicate that. Need more reference. About the embassies, I'd need better context for the namedrops they make and what criteria they used for classifying them as fascist, because there are few genuinely serious fascist regions in the game and none of those are listed in the embassies. Who in the fricking heck is Atomtopia, Golzborg or Soviet Cobra Communist Rebublic (etc.)? I've never head of them. Why and how are those important? What's their history and relation to "fascism"? How does it make Brebina fascist to have those people in its immediate periphery? Why do the raiders assume that I, let alone everyone else, would get any ringing bells in their head from any of that? It is stupid to think the only people reading the dispatches are knee-deep in the R/D and political metagaming of the site. All I am seeing at first glance are RP:ers, embassy collectors and the UoN, which is basically a gathering place for nationalists, some of whom may be fascists, but come in all sorts of colors. UoN has never had any fascist emphasis or program. Some of those regions I glanced even directly state to be Anti-Fascist, either in tags or the WFE. The initial image I get from all this is that the raiders are getting desperate for targets and stretching the definition for a fascist region to excuse/justify their invasion. They say, for example, that the person running Serovski Mir is a transphobe and now Serovski Mir is classified as a "problematic" embassy to support the fascist label on Brebina. Correlating transphobia with fascism without any other tangent is political illiteracy. Transphobia is just transphobia, doesn't matter where it comes from. They did the same thing with the other RMB "evidence" they used, pointing towards racist, sexist or transphobic content, which, again, on its own, has nothing to do with fascism. You know who else apart from fascists can be all these distasteful things?

It is kind of tragicomic that one of Brebina's own guys is going around telling people to shut the f*ck up for trying to defend Brebina, that they deserved what they got for being "fascist". Well, perhaps by some elaborate definition they were. Not that I am surprised by all this. The way people throw words and terms around these days is really tiresome and irritating. I have always exhorted precision with semantics. Not that it matters much in this situation anymore. My opinion is just my opinion and the majority has, from the look of it, accepted the mood of the masses. It is easier to go with the flow and the pressure when the fashist shame-badge is pinned on someone rather than to question it, at the risk of becoming targeted oneself for obviously being just another fashist coming in to speak on behalf of the devil.

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